Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig.  /smirk
Plus, if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even consider running it live in my company.
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nhoyt111@... Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:37 AM To: vantage@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Vantage] Epicor10 E10
Good Morning,
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vic Drecchio Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:53 AM To: vantage@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor10 E10
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig. /smirk
Plus,
if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even
consider running it live in my company.
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much
when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
Vic is right. We have signed NDA’s however I can tell you at the least it is feature wise the same as 9.05.702B with the exception of the ICE Tool set. Don’t
expect any updates in terms of Order Modules, CRM, Production, etc. Just faster all around though.
Joshua Giese
CIO
920.437.6400 Ext. 337
Site ID: 27450-E905700B2-SQL64
Wisconsin Converting, Inc.
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vic Drecchio Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:53 AM To: vantage@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor10 E10
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig. /smirk
Plus,
if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even
consider running it live in my company.
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much
when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
Its a technical upgrade more than a feature upgrade I would say, in terms of should you wait? Well you are always going to have to be in the most recent patch level before you can hit 10. So go ahead and do 703 it won't hurt.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Joshua Giese <jgiese@...> wrote:
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Vic is right. We have signed NDA’s however I can tell you at the least it is feature wise the same as 9.05.702B with the exception of the ICE Tool set. Don’t
expect any updates in terms of Order Modules, CRM, Production, etc. Just faster all around though.
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig.  /smirk
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Plus,
if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
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With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even
consider running it live in my company.
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much
when searching other than:
 "moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
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seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
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We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jose Gomez Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:02 AM To: Vantage Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor10 E10
Its a technical upgrade more than a feature upgrade I would say, in terms of should you wait? Well you are always going to have to be in the most recent patch level before you can hit 10.
So go ahead and do 703 it won't hurt.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Joshua Giese <jgiese@...> wrote:
Vic is right. We have signed NDA’s however I can tell you at the least it is feature wise the same as 9.05.702B with the exception of
the ICE Tool set. Don’t expect any updates in terms of Order Modules, CRM, Production, etc. Just faster all around though.
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig. /smirk
Plus,
if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even
consider running it live in my company.
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much
when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still
curious what limitations you’re up against.
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of mitchelljohn@... Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:13 PM To: vantage@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Vantage] RE: Epicor10 E10
The question is why do you want to upgrade?
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Joe Englert <englertj@...> wrote:
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What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still
curious what limitations you’re up against.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Joe Englert <englertj@...> wrote:
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What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still
curious what limitations you’re up against.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
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Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
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If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. Â There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Chad Villa <chad.villa@...> wrote:
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Joe Englert <englertj@...> wrote:
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What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still
curious what limitations you’re up against.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
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Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
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If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. Â There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
At the Asia Pacific Insights last month over here they said once E10 is released you will be able to upgrade from any version of 9.05.
---In vantage@yahoogroups.com, <jose@...> wrote:
Its a technical upgrade more than a feature upgrade I would say, in terms of should you wait? Well you are always going to have to be in the most recent patch level before you can hit 10. So go ahead and do 703 it won't hurt.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Joshua Giese <jgiese@...> wrote:
Vic is right. We have signed NDA’s however I can tell you at the least it is feature wise the same as 9.05.702B with the exception of the ICE Tool set. Don’t expect any updates in terms of Order Modules, CRM, Production, etc. Just faster all around though.
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig. /smirk
Plus, if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even consider running it live in my company.
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
I’m only going to say this…beware what Epicor claims can / will work.
Test, test, test first before you believe it. That is from almost 10 years of frustration on claims that things work only to find out it doesn’t. I’m hoping
what they say is right and I am proven wrong, but I am not going to believe it until Epicor’s claims are more consistent.
Manasa
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of paul.morgan@... Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:10 PM To: vantage@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Vantage] RE: Epicor10 E10
At the Asia Pacific Insights last month over here they said once E10 is released you will be able to upgrade from any version of 9.05.
Its a technical upgrade more than a feature upgrade I would say, in terms of should you wait? Well you are always going to have to be in the most recent patch level before
you can hit 10. So go ahead and do 703 it won't hurt.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Joshua Giese <jgiese@...> wrote:
Vic is right. We have signed NDA’s however I can tell you at the least it is feature wise the same as 9.05.702B with the exception of the ICE Tool set. Don’t expect any updates
in terms of Order Modules, CRM, Production, etc. Just faster all around though.
My 2-cents: I wouldn’t wait around for E10 in your 2014 upgrade plan. E10 should go on your radar for 2015. Unless you like being a guinea pig. /smirk
Plus, if there are beta testers on this list, they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements preventing them from saying anything.
With all of the things scheduled to change in E10, I’d give it a year in circulation once released before I’d even
consider running it live in my company.
Does anyone have the lowdown on the "enhancements" (never feature creep) for Epicor 10? Tech support cannot provide details and I'm waiting to hear back from my CAM. Tech support did mention that there are some beta testers out there. I cannot find much
when searching other than:
"moving away from progress translation layer" "huge difference in performance" and "data model net entity framework"....
seems a little IT touchy feely to me. How about CRM? What about mobile devices? What else?
We determining our upgrade plans for 2014 and it would be good to know whether we should run to get to 703 before we're forced to go to 10 if we upgrade.
H'uh, you know, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if in Epicor 10 you'll actually be able to write SQL for BAQs. I guess it would make sense. We have completely avoided BAQ reports (we use our Ripplestone report server and custom Crystal Reports) and very often avoid using a dashboard when it would be the nicest approach, simply because of the lack of power in BAQs when it comes to aggregating, summarizing, etc.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Joe Englert <englertj@...> wrote:
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What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still
curious what limitations you’re up against.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
considering you can't write your own query's now I doubt it would be something they will add. they don't particularly support writing your own query's because it doesn't
fit within the molds of their business logic.
H'uh, you know, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if in Epicor 10 you'll actually be able to write SQL for BAQs. I guess it would make sense. We have completely avoided BAQ reports (we use our Ripplestone report server and
custom Crystal Reports) and very often avoid using a dashboard when it would be the nicest approach, simply because of the lack of power in BAQs when it comes to aggregating, summarizing, etc.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Joe Englert
<englertj@...> wrote:
What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still curious what
limitations you’re up against.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
I was told at Insights that it also has to do with their security on what users can access when running BAQ’s.
Patrick Winter
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Giese Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 07:38 To: vantage@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: Epicor10 E10
considering you can't write your own query's now I doubt it would be something they will add. they don't particularly support writing your own query's because it doesn't fit within the molds of their business logic.
H'uh, you know, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if in Epicor 10 you'll actually be able to write SQL for BAQs. I guess it would make sense. We have completely avoided BAQ reports (we use our Ripplestone report server and custom Crystal Reports) and very often avoid using a dashboard when it would be the nicest approach, simply because of the lack of power in BAQs when it comes to aggregating, summarizing, etc.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Joe Englert <englertj@...> wrote:
What sorts of needs couldn’t you meet with Progress? I’m guessing from the sounds of your note that you’re straight Progress without SQL Server but, I’m still curious what limitations you’re up against.
If you are like us and have multiple systems with very specific needs that we cannot meet because of Progress, then E10 should solve those problems.
Epicor had no choice but to rewrite their ERP because of fundamental problems that cannot be solved in Progress.
If you are looking to go live with Epicor then I would absolutely go live on E10. There is no need to waste a huge amount of time and energy putting a dead system in place.
703 , don’t wait for 10. From what came out at Insights in Australia
is that E10 was going to be only 703, but with better performance with the key
middle layer in the existing Epicor 9 removed and going for a straight SQL and
.NET framework.
Epicor demonstrated a Beta version of E10 vs 702 using one of the tests out
of the performance tuning tech reference, and there was a marked
improvement. A lot of focus on performance improvement, which is really
something we are hoping for, in the mean time we will keeping any ABL type
customisations to a minimum.
In my opinion CRM in 701 at least needs more work. In particular
better email integration instead of using Information working which, from the
information I got from Insights Epicor would prefer CRM users to use Information
Worker and Outlook. They do have a Salesforce Connector, which I think has
been mentioned here before. Search Epicweb and you should find it.
Another interesting tool which has been around for a while is the Automated
Testing Engine, not too much information about it, but from what I gather is
allows you to do automated unit testing and load simulations which from my
perspective would be have been a very useful tool to have had when we initially
implemented.
You can use External BAQ’s to access the SQL data directly. I think
they introduced that in 700. We have a separate database and have a base
view of the main table then create extra more complicated views that way.
We have one views database per environment so we can transfer the
complicated view from one database to another.
Works for us.
E10 they say that all BAQs will be TSQL and no ABL. Some potential
work there when upgrading if you have a lot of BAQs.
