How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a daily basis

system · October 24, 2012, 10:49am

Kevin, they have to use it as a scare tactic. I would, too. There are a
LOT of "challenged" customers out there. A LOT. :-) Of course none of
them are on this Yahoo list, however.

If anyone has been or is a consultant on this list, I'm sure we've all
walked into companies and stood in silent disbelief, and then left with a
great story for our colleagues. :-) I've seen the production server in the
break room plugged into the same power strip that the microwave and coffee
pot were plugged into. And, the coffee pot was sitting on top of the
server. So could it be possible for the 18-yr old "computer whiz" intern to
do a TRUNCATE Table InvcMisc because he thought it was a temporary log
table? :-) Yeah.

But then there are a lot of responsible, careful and educated folks, like
us, out here. You have to screw up pretty bad for them to void your
warranty and the process isn't necessarily black-and-white. But they have
to have something rigid in place to cover themselves (legally) from customer
carelessness.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin Simon
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

I love how Epicor provides you with the tools to update data in your
database via ABL code, pushes that flexibility while they're selling you
their product, then fall back on the "it will void your warranty" when you
try to use it. I can see how they can, and should, take the approach that
if you update data via code, and that causes problems in the database that
they're not responsible. But it irks me when they throw out the "it will
void your warranty" as a scare tactic.

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Lawsuits...

And you really need to think about your last question...what would you lose
from restoring a backup....transactional data.

In my opinion why risk it?

M. Manasa Reddy
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630.806.2000 x1515

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

If they ever did that, what would be your next best steps? Couldn't you just
restore your DB from a backup before it was monkeyed with and move on with
warranty yet? I'm not voided just really curious about how they could truly
call it a permenant void unless you have modified their source code for the
actual application?

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> Subject: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a

daily basis

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> Has anyone actually ever had Epicor deny them service because of a "Voided

Warranty"?

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> > Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
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> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically

on a

> > daily basis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> > against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
> > because it is bypassing their business logic?
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: John Driggers <waffqle@ <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com

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> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically

on a

> > daily basis
> >
> > Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
> > you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
> >
> > Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost

identical.

> >
> > *John Driggers*
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> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@
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> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and

only

> > > fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a

control

> > > table.
> > >
> > > John A. Hatcher
> > > Manager of IS
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system · October 17, 2012, 1:58pm

Need some help with this one. We have a BPM to put a customer on credit
hold if they haven't paid their invoice within 70 days. Our problem is that
we need to run this BPM nightly. How do can we do this? I was thinking
that we need to set up a process and then schedule it but our search for how
to do this hasn't turned up anything. Can anyone give us some insight?
Thanks for your help!

Beth

Beth Rye

IT Director

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system · October 17, 2012, 5:38pm

I haven't tried this... but if you can get a data directive to fire off the sysagent table you could schedule a patsy baq nightly and queue off that..

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-4832
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bethany Rye
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a daily basis

Need some help with this one. We have a BPM to put a customer on credit
hold if they haven't paid their invoice within 70 days. Our problem is that
we need to run this BPM nightly. How do can we do this? I was thinking
that we need to set up a process and then schedule it but our search for how
to do this hasn't turned up anything. Can anyone give us some insight?
Thanks for your help!

Beth

Beth Rye

IT Director

CIGNYS

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system · October 18, 2012, 9:32am

I would love a proper way to schedule a BPM or non-Epicor process, but
don't know of one.

I did hack together an ugly method that was in the "works but
embarrassingly kludgy" category. I created a BAQ report, scheduled it
for once a day under a unique username, and hooked my BPM to one of the
methods in DynamicQueryReport (typing that name from memory). Had to
add a bunch of conditions (checking the special username, report name,
etc) to prevent it from firing too often, but got it working.

Brian.

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Of Rob Bucek
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

I haven't tried this... but if you can get a data directive to fire off
the sysagent table you could schedule a patsy baq nightly and queue off
that..

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-4832
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...
<mailto:1.234354861%40web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> ]<
http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Bethany Rye
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Need some help with this one. We have a BPM to put a customer on credit
hold if they haven't paid their invoice within 70 days. Our problem is
that
we need to run this BPM nightly. How do can we do this? I was thinking
that we need to set up a process and then schedule it but our search for
how
to do this hasn't turned up anything. Can anyone give us some insight?
Thanks for your help!

Beth

Beth Rye

IT Director

CIGNYS

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system · October 18, 2012, 9:43am

The easiest way I've done this is to Hang on to Report Monitor ->
GetRowsKeepIdle. it runs every few seconds. Use a UD table to establish
excecution times / schedule.

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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Brian Roberts <broberts@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I would love a proper way to schedule a BPM or non-Epicor process, but
> don't know of one.
>
> I did hack together an ugly method that was in the "works but
> embarrassingly kludgy" category. I created a BAQ report, scheduled it
> for once a day under a unique username, and hooked my BPM to one of the
> methods in DynamicQueryReport (typing that name from memory). Had to
> add a bunch of conditions (checking the special username, report name,
> etc) to prevent it from firing too often, but got it working.
>
> Brian.
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rob Bucek
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:39 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> daily basis
>
> I haven't tried this... but if you can get a data directive to fire off
> the sysagent table you could schedule a patsy baq nightly and queue off
> that..
>
> Rob Bucek
> Production Control Manager
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> Mobile: (715)896-4832
> FAX: (715)284-4084
> [cid:1.234354861@...
> <mailto:1.234354861%40web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> ]<
>
> http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> (Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
>
> Behalf Of Bethany Rye
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:59 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> daily basis
>
> Need some help with this one. We have a BPM to put a customer on credit
> hold if they haven't paid their invoice within 70 days. Our problem is
> that
> we need to run this BPM nightly. How do can we do this? I was thinking
> that we need to set up a process and then schedule it but our search for
> how
> to do this hasn't turned up anything. Can anyone give us some insight?
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Beth
>
> Beth Rye
>
> IT Director
>
> CIGNYS
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system · October 18, 2012, 10:25am

Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control table.

John A. Hatcher
Manager of IS
Versa Products Co., Inc.
(201) 843-2400 x4148
(201) 843-2931 fax

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system · October 18, 2012, 10:51am

Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.

Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.

*John Driggers*
**
*Chief Data Wrangler*
*
*
*I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
*
*:: 904.404.9233
:: waffqle@...
:: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>

*

*

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> table.
>
> John A. Hatcher
> Manager of IS
> Versa Products Co., Inc.
> (201) 843-2400 x4148
> (201) 843-2931 fax
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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system · October 18, 2012, 11:31am

I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming because it is bypassing their business logic?

________________________________
From: John Driggers <waffqle@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a daily basis

Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.

Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.

*John Driggers*
**
*Chief Data Wrangler*
*
*
*I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
*
*:: 904.404.9233
:: waffqle@...
:: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>

*

*

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> table.
>
> John A. Hatcher
> Manager of IS
> Versa Products Co., Inc.
> (201) 843-2400 x4148
> (201) 843-2931 fax
>
>
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:40am

You can make a .P which invokes the business objects with no problems.

*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Ted Koch <tkoch77@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
> because it is bypassing their business logic?
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Driggers <waffqle@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on
> a daily basis
>
>
> Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
> you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
>
> Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.
>
> *John Driggers*
> **
> *Chief Data Wrangler*
> *
> *
> *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
> *
> *:: 904.404.9233
> :: waffqle@...
> :: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>
>
> *
>
> *
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> > fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a
> control
> > table.
> >
> > John A. Hatcher
> > Manager of IS
> > Versa Products Co., Inc.
> > (201) 843-2400 x4148
> > (201) 843-2931 fax
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:44am

Oh yeah? Didn't know you could reference the logic.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jose Gomez
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

You can make a .P which invokes the business objects with no problems.

*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Ted Koch <tkoch77@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
> because it is bypassing their business logic?
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Driggers <waffqle@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM
> automatically on a daily basis
>
>
> Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file.
> Then you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
>
> Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost
identical.
>
> *John Driggers*
> **
> *Chief Data Wrangler*
> *
> *
> *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is
> that?*
> *
> *:: 904.404.9233
> :: waffqle@...
> :: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>
>
> *
>
> *
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John
> <johnh@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and
> > only fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field
> > in a
> control
> > table.
> >
> > John A. Hatcher
> > Manager of IS
> > Versa Products Co., Inc.
> > (201) 843-2400 x4148
> > (201) 843-2931 fax
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:44am

Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
records via SQL. Or drink whiskey before noon. Who comes up with this
stuff?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Koch
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
because it is bypassing their business logic?

________________________________
From: John Driggers <waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.

Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.

*John Driggers*
**
*Chief Data Wrangler*
*
*
*I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
*
*:: 904.404.9233
:: waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
:: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>

*

*

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...
<mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com> >wrote:

> **
>
>
> Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> table.
>
> John A. Hatcher
> Manager of IS
> Versa Products Co., Inc.
> (201) 843-2400 x4148
> (201) 843-2931 fax
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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system · October 18, 2012, 11:46am

Thanks to everyone who had great suggestions for this. Appreciate the help!

Not sure if we will do the .p thing now that I know we could potentially
void the warranty.but may try it in test ;)

Beth

Beth Rye

IT Director

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system · October 18, 2012, 11:47am

Has anyone actually ever had Epicor deny them service because of a "Voided Warranty"?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
>
> Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
> records via SQL. Or drink whiskey before noon. Who comes up with this
> stuff?
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Ted Koch
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:32 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> daily basis
>
>
>
>
>
> I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
> because it is bypassing their business logic?
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Driggers <waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> daily basis
>
> Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
> you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
>
> Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.
>
> *John Driggers*
> **
> *Chief Data Wrangler*
> *
> *
> *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
> *
> *:: 904.404.9233
> :: waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
> :: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>
>
> *
>
> *
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...
> <mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> > fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> > table.
> >
> > John A. Hatcher
> > Manager of IS
> > Versa Products Co., Inc.
> > (201) 843-2400 x4148
> > (201) 843-2931 fax
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:49am

Uh, yes...

M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa@...>
630.806.2000 x1515

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jgiese1988
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a daily basis

Has anyone actually ever had Epicor deny them service because of a "Voided Warranty"?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...<mailto:vic.drecchio@...>> wrote:
>
> Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
> records via SQL. Or drink whiskey before noon. Who comes up with this
> stuff?
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> Ted Koch
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:32 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> daily basis
>
>
>
>
>
> I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
> because it is bypassing their business logic?
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Driggers <waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com<mailto:waffqle@...%20%3cmailto:waffqle%40gmail.com>> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> daily basis
>
> Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
> you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
>
> Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.
>
> *John Driggers*
> **
> *Chief Data Wrangler*
> *
> *
> *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
> *
> *:: 904.404.9233
> :: waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
> :: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>
>
> *
>
> *
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...
<mailto:johnh@...%0b>> <mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> > fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> > table.
> >
> > John A. Hatcher
> > Manager of IS
> > Versa Products Co., Inc.
> > (201) 843-2400 x4148
> > (201) 843-2931 fax
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:52am

Speaking about drinking whiskey before noon.oh sorry, I meant Updating
records via SQL (LOL!).we need to get rid of a bunch of reason codes. One
of the suggestions was to get rid of them via SQL but we would need to know
every table that they are in. I know there is a request in to Epicor to put
an inactive checkbox in the table (with the logic to not display them if
inactive), but I don't know where that stands. So, I guess I'm asking if
anyone has done this.

Beth

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Vic Drecchio
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
records via SQL. Or drink whiskey before noon. Who comes up with this
stuff?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Ted Koch
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
because it is bypassing their business logic?

________________________________
From: John Driggers <waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com>
<mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.

Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.

*John Driggers*
**
*Chief Data Wrangler*
*
*
*I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
*
*:: 904.404.9233
:: waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
<mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
:: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>

*

*

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...
<mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com>
<mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com> >wrote:

> **
>
>
> Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> table.
>
> John A. Hatcher
> Manager of IS
> Versa Products Co., Inc.
> (201) 843-2400 x4148
> (201) 843-2931 fax
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:55am

It won't void the waranty if you use the business object that's what SOA is
all about.

*Jose C Gomez*
*Software Engineer*
*
*
*
*T: 904.469.1524 mobile
E: jose@...
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<http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
<http://www.usdoingstuff.com>

*Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bethany Rye <brye@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thanks to everyone who had great suggestions for this. Appreciate the help!
>
> Not sure if we will do the .p thing now that I know we could potentially
> void the warranty.but may try it in test ;)
>
>
> Beth
>
> Beth Rye
>
> IT Director
>
> CIGNYS
>
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:56am

If they ever did that, what would be your next best steps? Couldn't you just restore your DB from a backup before it was monkeyed with and move on with warranty yet? I'm not voided just really curious about how they could truly call it a permenant void unless you have modified their source code for the actual application?

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>
> Uh, yes...
>
>
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> M. Manasa Reddy
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> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jgiese1988
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:47 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a daily basis
>
>
>
> Has anyone actually ever had Epicor deny them service because of a "Voided Warranty"?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@<mailto:vic.drecchio@>> wrote:
> >
> > Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
> > records via SQL. Or drink whiskey before noon. Who comes up with this
> > stuff?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > Ted Koch
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:32 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> > daily basis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> > against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
> > because it is bypassing their business logic?
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: John Driggers <waffqle@ <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com<mailto:waffqle@%20%3cmailto:waffqle%40gmail.com>> >
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
> > daily basis
> >
> > Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
> > you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
> >
> > Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.
> >
> > *John Driggers*
> > **
> > *Chief Data Wrangler*
> > *
> > *
> > *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
> > *
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> > *
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@
> <mailto:johnh@%0b>> <mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com> >wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> > > fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> > > table.
> > >
> > > John A. Hatcher
> > > Manager of IS
> > > Versa Products Co., Inc.
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system · October 18, 2012, 11:58am

Can you point me to an example or some documentation for doing this? I
know how to make an ABL program called from an Epicor screen (as a
persistent procedure) that calls business methods. But I didn't realize
that was possible outside of Epicor.

And for the warrenty comments: reading data via any process is fine.
Updating UD fields or tables in fine. But if you modify Epicor fields
outside of their business objects... then swim at your own risk.

Thanks,

Brian.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:44 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically
on a daily basis

Oh yeah? Didn't know you could reference the logic.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
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Jose Gomez
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically
on a
daily basis

You can make a .P which invokes the business objects with no problems.

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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Ted Koch <tkoch77@...
<mailto:tkoch77%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> **
>
>
> I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming

> because it is bypassing their business logic?
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Driggers <waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> >
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM
> automatically on a daily basis
>
>
> Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file.
> Then you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
>
> Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost

identical.

>
> *John Driggers*
> **
> *Chief Data Wrangler*
> *
> *
> *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is
> that?*
> *
> *:: 904.404.9233
> :: waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
> :: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>
>
> *
>
> *
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John
> <johnh@... <mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com>
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and
> > only fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field
> > in a
> control
> > table.
> >
> > John A. Hatcher
> > Manager of IS
> > Versa Products Co., Inc.
> > (201) 843-2400 x4148
> > (201) 843-2931 fax
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system · October 18, 2012, 12:02pm

Here is how to create a Misc Charge using the Business Objects

DEFINE INPUT PARAMETER amt AS DECIMAL NO-UNDO.

DEFINE INPUT PARAMETER dsc AS CHARACTER NO-UNDO.
DEFINE INPUT PARAMETER orderNum AS INTEGER NO-UNDO.

define variable hBO as handle no-undo.
define variable lReturnValue as logical no-undo.

{bo/SalesOrder_ds.i}
run bo/SalesOrder.p persistent set hBO no-error.
if not valid-handle(hBO) or error-status:error then do:
/* Clean up and return error */

message "Could not instantiate the business object on the server."
view-as alert-box error buttons OK.
return error.
end.

run GetByID in hBO ( input orderNum,
{&output_dataset_SalesOrderDataSet}) no-error .
if error-status:error or return-value ne "" then do:
/* Clean up and return error */

message return-value view-as alert-box error buttons OK.
return error.

end.
find ttOrderHed where ttOrderHed.OrderNum = orderNum no-lock no-error.
if not available ttOrderHed then do:
/* Clean up and return error */

message "Employee not found" view-as alert-box error buttons OK.

return error.
end.
else do:
Message 'Getting New MSC *TGM*'.
Run GetNewOHOrderMsc in
hBO({&input-output_dataset_SalesOrderDataSet},INPUT orderNum, INPUT
0).
FOR EACH ttOHOrderMsc WHERE ttOHOrderMsc.RowMod='A':
Assign ttOHOrderMsc.MiscCode='FRGT'
ttOHOrderMsc.Description=dsc.

END.
Message 'Getting MSC Code *TGM*'.
Run ChangeMiscCode IN
hBO({&input-output_dataset_SalesOrderDataSet},INPUT 'OHOrderMsc').
FOR EACH ttOHOrderMsc WHERE ttOHOrderMsc.RowMod='A':
Assign ttOHOrderMsc.DocMiscAmt=amt.
END.
Message 'Getting MSC Amt *TGM*'.
Run ChangeMiscAmount IN
hBO({&input-output_dataset_SalesOrderDataSet},INPUT 'OHOrderMsc').
Message 'Update *TGM*'.
Run Update IN hBO({&input-output_dataset_SalesOrderDataSet}).

Message 'DONE *TGM*'.
end.

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*Software Engineer*
*
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Brian Roberts <broberts@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Can you point me to an example or some documentation for doing this? I
> know how to make an ABL program called from an Epicor screen (as a
> persistent procedure) that calls business methods. But I didn't realize
> that was possible outside of Epicor.
>
> And for the warrenty comments: reading data via any process is fine.
> Updating UD fields or tables in fine. But if you modify Epicor fields
> outside of their business objects... then swim at your own risk.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian.
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Vic Drecchio
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:44 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically
> on a daily basis
>
> Oh yeah? Didn't know you could reference the logic.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> Jose Gomez
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:35 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically
> on a
> daily basis
>
> You can make a .P which invokes the business objects with no problems.
>
> *Jose C Gomez*
> *Software Engineer*
> *
> *
> *
> *T: 904.469.1524 mobile
> E: jose@... <mailto:jose%40josecgomez.com>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/josecgomez> <
> http://www.facebook.com/josegomez>
> <http://www.google.com/profiles/jose.gomez> <
> http://www.twitter.com/joc85>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/professional-resume/>
> <http://www.josecgomez.com/feed/>
> <http://www.usdoingstuff.com>
>
> *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?*
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Ted Koch <tkoch77@...
> <mailto:tkoch77%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
> > against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
>
> > because it is bypassing their business logic?
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: John Driggers <waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> >
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM
> > automatically on a daily basis
> >
> >
> > Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file.
> > Then you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.
> >
> > Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost
> identical.
> >
> > *John Driggers*
> > **
> > *Chief Data Wrangler*
> > *
> > *
> > *I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is
> > that?*
> > *
> > *:: 904.404.9233
> > :: waffqle@... <mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
> > :: http://www.usdoingstuff.com <http://www.usdoingstuff.com/>
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John
> > <johnh@... <mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com>
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and
> > > only fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field
> > > in a
> > control
> > > table.
> > >
> > > John A. Hatcher
> > > Manager of IS
> > > Versa Products Co., Inc.
> > > (201) 843-2400 x4148
> > > (201) 843-2931 fax
> > >
> > >
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system · October 18, 2012, 12:02pm

You could use a UD field on the reason code table and then modify the combobox's that display the reason codes to filter out the checked ones. While the system would not technically have inactivate the reason codes a user wouldn't be able to select it.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bethany Rye
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a daily basis

Speaking about drinking whiskey before noon.oh sorry, I meant Updating
records via SQL (LOL!).we need to get rid of a bunch of reason codes. One
of the suggestions was to get rid of them via SQL but we would need to know
every table that they are in. I know there is a request in to Epicor to put
an inactive checkbox in the table (with the logic to not display them if
inactive), but I don't know where that stands. So, I guess I'm asking if
anyone has done this.

Beth

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
Vic Drecchio
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Yep, circumvents all biz logic. Just like we're not supposed to Update
records via SQL. Or drink whiskey before noon. Who comes up with this
stuff?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Ted Koch
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

I was fighting with Epicor on this, they told me not to run a .p file
against the database or it will possibly void warranties. I'm assuming
because it is bypassing their business logic?

________________________________
From: John Driggers <waffqle@...<mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> <mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com>
<mailto:waffqle%40gmail.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: How to automatically run a BPM automatically on a
daily basis

Personally, I would move the code from a BPM to a separate .P file. Then
you can run it directly via prowin and just create a system task.

Even if it's a pretty complicated BPM, the code should be almost identical.

*John Driggers*
**
*Chief Data Wrangler*
*
*
*I have an Epicor blog <http://usdoingstuff.com/>. How useful is that?*
*
*:: 904.404.9233
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<mailto:waffqle%40usdoingstuff.com>
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*

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On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Hatcher, John <johnh@...<mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com>
<mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com>
<mailto:johnh%40versa-valves.com> >wrote:

> **
>
>
> Best method I found was to associate a BPM with a common method and only
> fire if it wasn't run yet today based on a user defined field in a control
> table.
>
> John A. Hatcher
> Manager of IS
> Versa Products Co., Inc.
> (201) 843-2400 x4148
> (201) 843-2931 fax
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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