Labor Hours Mystery

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We spend five hours a week adjusting labor hours that don't calculate properly. We have three shifts, around 150 clock people, and 6 clocks. We don't split operations. We are on 3.0.632.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Dunn, Nancy
To: Vantage Onelist (E-mail)
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Labor Hours Mystery


Okay everyone this is the story.
We have had 3 cases over the last month were the labor hours and total labor
hours were not right. Our night shift comes in at 10:00 pm and leaves at
7:30 am. The clock in and clock out times show it the Labor Entry
correctly. But in the Detail review or any reports the Labor hours for the
operation and the Total labor hours for the shift are not correct. They
will be close to half of the amount of time they are suppose to be. The
time is always less then it should be. This includes direct labor and
indirect labor.

It always happens to night shift, never to day shift, and never all the
time. It never happens on the same day ( 2 on Sun/Mon and 1 on Tues/Weds).
Support has had us look at the Shift Master Maint. - it's okay, we are
using split burden - but it happens on indirect labor and direct labor. It
doesn't happen to all operations of one user, it can be just some of them
for multiple people. It is not always everyone on night shift, some of them
are wrong some are okay.
Is anyone else seeing this???? Any ideas???
Thanks
Nancy
Winco Industries
ndunn@...



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Okay everyone this is the story.
We have had 3 cases over the last month were the labor hours and total labor
hours were not right. Our night shift comes in at 10:00 pm and leaves at
7:30 am. The clock in and clock out times show it the Labor Entry
correctly. But in the Detail review or any reports the Labor hours for the
operation and the Total labor hours for the shift are not correct. They
will be close to half of the amount of time they are suppose to be. The
time is always less then it should be. This includes direct labor and
indirect labor.

It always happens to night shift, never to day shift, and never all the
time. It never happens on the same day ( 2 on Sun/Mon and 1 on Tues/Weds).
Support has had us look at the Shift Master Maint. - it's okay, we are
using split burden - but it happens on indirect labor and direct labor. It
doesn't happen to all operations of one user, it can be just some of them
for multiple people. It is not always everyone on night shift, some of them
are wrong some are okay.
Is anyone else seeing this???? Any ideas???
Thanks
Nancy
Winco Industries
ndunn@...
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Oops. I should have said we are on Version 4 patch 904.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dunn, Nancy [mailto:ndunn@...]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:10 PM
To: Vantage Onelist (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Labor Hours Mystery


Okay everyone this is the story.
We have had 3 cases over the last month were the labor hours and total labor
hours were not right. Our night shift comes in at 10:00 pm and leaves at
7:30 am. The clock in and clock out times show it the Labor Entry
correctly. But in the Detail review or any reports the Labor hours for the
operation and the Total labor hours for the shift are not correct. They
will be close to half of the amount of time they are suppose to be. The
time is always less then it should be. This includes direct labor and
indirect labor.

It always happens to night shift, never to day shift, and never all the
time. It never happens on the same day ( 2 on Sun/Mon and 1 on Tues/Weds).
Support has had us look at the Shift Master Maint. - it's okay, we are
using split burden - but it happens on indirect labor and direct labor. It
doesn't happen to all operations of one user, it can be just some of them
for multiple people. It is not always everyone on night shift, some of them
are wrong some are okay.
Is anyone else seeing this???? Any ideas???
Thanks
Nancy
Winco Industries
ndunn@...




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Nancy
Looking back at our incidents (see earlier topic Labor edit Report...) I am
seeing the same thing as you... only on 2nd shift (15:15 to 23:45), never on
1st shift. Though our 2nd shift does not span midnight as your night shift
does. On the other hand we have Labor = Burden checked instead of Split
Burden. I am having the accounting people keep a lookout for any 1st shift
incidents.

Jim,
My read of the help for Split Burden has always been it has no effect on
Labor hrs and only in the way it handles burden hrs. In our case we really
want burden to be the same as the labor hours. Our issue (and Nancy's) are
where the labor hours (and also for us burden hrs) are getting cut in
roughly half but should not be.

BTW- Vantage 4.00.812 using Data Collection from PCs - Progress is 9.0B

Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dunn, Nancy [mailto:ndunn@...]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:10 PM
To: Vantage Onelist (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Labor Hours Mystery


Okay everyone this is the story.
We have had 3 cases over the last month were the labor hours and total labor
hours were not right. Our night shift comes in at 10:00 pm and leaves at
7:30 am. The clock in and clock out times show it the Labor Entry
correctly. But in the Detail review or any reports the Labor hours for the
operation and the Total labor hours for the shift are not correct. They
will be close to half of the amount of time they are suppose to be. The
time is always less then it should be. This includes direct labor and
indirect labor.

It always happens to night shift, never to day shift, and never all the
time. It never happens on the same day ( 2 on Sun/Mon and 1 on Tues/Weds).
Support has had us look at the Shift Master Maint. - it's okay, we are
using split burden - but it happens on indirect labor and direct labor. It
doesn't happen to all operations of one user, it can be just some of them
for multiple people. It is not always everyone on night shift, some of them
are wrong some are okay.
Is anyone else seeing this???? Any ideas???
Thanks
Nancy
Winco Industries
ndunn@...




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