More FRx Questions

There is a web demo of FRx I think next week or so.

Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...

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-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ben Belzer
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


How much is Epicor charging for SQL/FRx? I am interested in purchasing this
myself. I use Corvu now, and for the most part it works well. It just
seems cumbersome to use, and sometimes generating the same reports through
Excel/Query is much easier.



FRx seems like a good option. Is there anyplace online where I can see a
demo or screenshots of FRx with Vantage?



Thanks,

Ben



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:05 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] More FRx Questions



Dale,
Thanks much. Std. Ed. it will be. I would gladly pay part of the
difference in cost to have Ben onsite again (especially since no travel cost
for us except 30 mile drive). I would much rather see a quote with minimum
cost on SQL but add allowance for consulting (same total cost
even) than feel I am getting ripped off for the database part. OK, ripped
off is too strong...perhaps just the victim of miscommunication when they
determined what SQL Server is required - for which I have to investigate for
myself. -Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Dale Norris
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


Todd:

We are using FRX with SQL Server Std Edition running on its own server. We
previously did not have any SQL running anywhere. I bought it directly from
a mail order house (PCMall) for about $800 or so. It is working just fine
for us. We had Ben Nixon come on-site to set it up for us (no one on site
had any SQL experience). The only "gotcha" is getting the right licensing
codes from FRX/Epicor. Once we got the info everything went pretty well.

Our Controller absolutely loves FRX. If you want to talk with him directly,
please contact me off-line. He will be out of the office for the next week,
but I am sure he would be willing to talk about it when he gets back. I
believe he manually "refreshes" the meta data before he is going to run
reports.

Hope this helps,

Dale Norris
IS Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics
dnorris@...


>>> caugheyt@... 11/10/2005 9:05 AM >>>

We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product called
F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL Server.
At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server license is
required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for Microsoft so has
quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times what I see at CDW.
I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1 processor runtime + Software
Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition with software assurance
for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy? Was
there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it via
Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other
server? Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long
does it take to run? What sort of disk space is required? Any other
comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after a
couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI). We
currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets (both
Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage reports and
screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all financial info in
Vantage and report directly from there. He has used F9 previously and liked
it a lot but it would require expensive custom programming (at same total
cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to "error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the SQL
Server license required.

-Todd C.


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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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Yahoo! Groups Links












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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product called F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL Server. At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server license is required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for Microsoft so has quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times what I see at CDW. I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1 processor runtime + Software Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition with software assurance for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy? Was there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it via Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other server?
Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long does it take to run?
What sort of disk space is required?
Any other comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after a couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI). We currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets (both Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage reports and screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all financial info in Vantage and report directly from there. He has used F9 previously and liked it a lot but it would require expensive custom programming (at same total cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to "error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the SQL Server license required.

-Todd C.


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I would buy sql from the cheapest.

Tom, what problems did you have with vbi? Is it more vaporware :(

Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...

Visit www.one.org to see how the world can be changed one person at a time.



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:06 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product called
F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL Server.
At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server license is
required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for Microsoft so has
quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times what I see at CDW.
I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1 processor runtime + Software
Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition with software assurance
for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy? Was
there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it via
Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other
server? Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long
does it take to run? What sort of disk space is required? Any other
comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after a
couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI). We
currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets (both
Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage reports and
screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all financial info in
Vantage and report directly from there. He has used F9 previously and liked
it a lot but it would require expensive custom programming (at same total
cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to "error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the SQL
Server license required.

-Todd C.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Todd:

We are using FRX with SQL Server Std Edition running on its own server. We previously did not have any SQL running anywhere. I bought it directly from a mail order house (PCMall) for about $800 or so. It is working just fine for us. We had Ben Nixon come on-site to set it up for us (no one on site had any SQL experience). The only "gotcha" is getting the right licensing codes from FRX/Epicor. Once we got the info everything went pretty well.

Our Controller absolutely loves FRX. If you want to talk with him directly, please contact me off-line. He will be out of the office for the next week, but I am sure he would be willing to talk about it when he gets back. I believe he manually "refreshes" the meta data before he is going to run reports.

Hope this helps,

Dale Norris
IS Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics
dnorris@...


>>> caugheyt@... 11/10/2005 9:05 AM >>>

We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product called F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL Server. At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server license is required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for Microsoft so has quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times what I see at CDW. I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1 processor runtime + Software Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition with software assurance for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy? Was there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it via Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other server?
Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long does it take to run?
What sort of disk space is required?
Any other comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after a couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI). We currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets (both Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage reports and screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all financial info in Vantage and report directly from there. He has used F9 previously and liked it a lot but it would require expensive custom programming (at same total cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to "error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the SQL Server license required.

-Todd C.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links












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VBI issue #1:
Would not run on NT 4.0, our "then" Vantage server (now Win2K)
VBI #2:
Loaded on our Exhange server running Win2K to import data from Vantage server....would not accept password to access Vantage DB so nightly update never worked - again NT 4.0 issue probably.
VBI #3:
Upgraded Vantage server to Win2k - update ran OK for first time ever...and exhausted disk space. VBI dynamart was 1.7 X Vantage DB size, when it died taking down Exchange in the process

OK, so somewhat self inflicted with NT 4.0 and disk space issues but these should have been identified "pre-sale". We had had a similar post-sale surprise issue once before with the ADP Export module not handling overtime as expected. So twice burned forever cautious now. I think VBI / CorVu could be tremendously powerful, especially with 8.0 as an RB alternative, if we can get past the gotchas we could have been warned about in advance.

I like Vantage (a lot) and in general like Epicor (no worse than most big software outfits) but feel there is a huge problem in their CAMs being revenue hounds (sell, sell, sell) without being real partners with their customer base and helping lookout for our needs and success. Including understanding the customer well enough to bird dog possible issues in advance. A CAM's #1 goal should be helping their customers grow so much they are compelled to happily buy more seats, modules, training and consulting. I have not seen this very much so now I must exercise my own caution and due diligence before buying anything - so I ask the battle weary experts here.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


I would buy sql from the cheapest.

Tom, what problems did you have with vbi? Is it more vaporware :(

Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...

Visit www.one.org to see how the world can be changed one person at a time.



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:06 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product called
F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL Server.
At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server license is
required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for Microsoft so has
quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times what I see at CDW.
I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1 processor runtime + Software
Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition with software assurance
for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy? Was
there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it via
Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other
server? Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long
does it take to run? What sort of disk space is required? Any other
comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after a
couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI). We
currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets (both
Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage reports and
screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all financial info in
Vantage and report directly from there. He has used F9 previously and liked
it a lot but it would require expensive custom programming (at same total
cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to "error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the SQL
Server license required.

-Todd C.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links











Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links



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Dale,
Thanks much. Std. Ed. it will be. I would gladly pay part of the difference in cost to have Ben onsite again (especially since no travel cost for us except 30 mile drive). I would much rather see a quote with minimum cost on SQL but add allowance for consulting (same total cost even) than feel I am getting ripped off for the database part. OK, ripped off is too strong...perhaps just the victim of miscommunication when they determined what SQL Server is required - for which I have to investigate for myself.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dale Norris
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


Todd:

We are using FRX with SQL Server Std Edition running on its own server. We previously did not have any SQL running anywhere. I bought it directly from a mail order house (PCMall) for about $800 or so. It is working just fine for us. We had Ben Nixon come on-site to set it up for us (no one on site had any SQL experience). The only "gotcha" is getting the right licensing codes from FRX/Epicor. Once we got the info everything went pretty well.

Our Controller absolutely loves FRX. If you want to talk with him directly, please contact me off-line. He will be out of the office for the next week, but I am sure he would be willing to talk about it when he gets back. I believe he manually "refreshes" the meta data before he is going to run reports.

Hope this helps,

Dale Norris
IS Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics
dnorris@...


>>> caugheyt@... 11/10/2005 9:05 AM >>>

We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product called F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL Server. At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server license is required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for Microsoft so has quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times what I see at CDW. I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1 processor runtime + Software Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition with software assurance for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy? Was there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it via Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other server?
Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long does it take to run?
What sort of disk space is required?
Any other comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after a couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI). We currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets (both Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage reports and screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all financial info in Vantage and report directly from there. He has used F9 previously and liked it a lot but it would require expensive custom programming (at same total cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to "error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the SQL Server license required.

-Todd C.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links












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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links



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I need to generate a report for A/P and A/R "ADJUSTMENT
ENTRIES". I can't seem to find the tables that relate to those entries.

Shirley

Tracking #: 6E0BA77408E072498CDDD3BEB19A106BD508A60A


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G/L reports / Journal Listing and select adjustments journal.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Graver
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Version 5 A/P and A/R Adjustments


I need to generate a report for A/P and A/R "ADJUSTMENT
ENTRIES". I can't seem to find the tables that relate to those entries.

Shirley

Tracking #: 6E0BA77408E072498CDDD3BEB19A106BD508A60A


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
How much is Epicor charging for SQL/FRx? I am interested in purchasing
this myself. I use Corvu now, and for the most part it works well. It
just seems cumbersome to use, and sometimes generating the same reports
through Excel/Query is much easier.



FRx seems like a good option. Is there anyplace online where I can see
a demo or screenshots of FRx with Vantage?



Thanks,

Ben



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:05 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] More FRx Questions



Dale,
Thanks much. Std. Ed. it will be. I would gladly pay part of the
difference in cost to have Ben onsite again (especially since no travel
cost for us except 30 mile drive). I would much rather see a quote with
minimum cost on SQL but add allowance for consulting (same total cost
even) than feel I am getting ripped off for the database part. OK,
ripped off is too strong...perhaps just the victim of miscommunication
when they determined what SQL Server is required - for which I have to
investigate for myself.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Dale Norris
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


Todd:

We are using FRX with SQL Server Std Edition running on its own server.
We previously did not have any SQL running anywhere. I bought it
directly from a mail order house (PCMall) for about $800 or so. It is
working just fine for us. We had Ben Nixon come on-site to set it up for
us (no one on site had any SQL experience). The only "gotcha" is getting
the right licensing codes from FRX/Epicor. Once we got the info
everything went pretty well.

Our Controller absolutely loves FRX. If you want to talk with him
directly, please contact me off-line. He will be out of the office for
the next week, but I am sure he would be willing to talk about it when
he gets back. I believe he manually "refreshes" the meta data before he
is going to run reports.

Hope this helps,

Dale Norris
IS Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics
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>>> caugheyt@... 11/10/2005 9:05 AM >>>

We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product
called F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL
Server. At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server
license is required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for
Microsoft so has quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times
what I see at CDW. I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1
processor runtime + Software Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000
Standard Edition with software assurance for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy?
Was there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it
via Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other
server?
Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long does
it take to run?
What sort of disk space is required?
Any other comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after
a couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI).
We currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets
(both Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage
reports and screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all
financial info in Vantage and report directly from there. He has used
F9 previously and liked it a lot but it would require expensive custom
programming (at same total cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to
"error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the
SQL Server license required.

-Todd C.


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In general I try to stay away from requoting. Not sure why but I would not want to hurt whatever relationship you have with your CAM. But in the case of the SQL part I was quoted $2,250 + $450 for SA for a total of $2,700 for SQL Server which was a lot more than the $970 CDW has so this really made me pause and rethink for a minute. The rest of FRx, as I have discovered, is way too complicated and specific to an individual site - both in terms of options (drill down seats or WebPort) as well as number of users, etc.... We have been trying to keep our total budget under $6K since F9 was about $4,200.

I still think FRx would be a great tool for our financial reporting consolidation and movement away from spreadsheets. We would still need RB (for now), dashboard queries, Crystal and CorVu (someday) for the rest of our non-financial reporting.

You can get a decent FRx demo disk from your CAM but it is not Vantage specific. On the other hand the Vantage part looks to be pretty transparent anyway so any demo should be enough to see what it can do. They "map" the Vantage DB financial tables to SQL tables which I believe are standard to FRx when the meta data is built or refreshed so my understanding is the true source of the data is not very relevent. We had an excellent WebEx type (OK, Live Meeting, FRx is a Microsoft company after all) demo with an FRx rep that was very helpful.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ben Belzer
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


How much is Epicor charging for SQL/FRx? I am interested in purchasing
this myself. I use Corvu now, and for the most part it works well. It
just seems cumbersome to use, and sometimes generating the same reports
through Excel/Query is much easier.



FRx seems like a good option. Is there anyplace online where I can see
a demo or screenshots of FRx with Vantage?



Thanks,

Ben



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:05 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] More FRx Questions



Dale,
Thanks much. Std. Ed. it will be. I would gladly pay part of the
difference in cost to have Ben onsite again (especially since no travel
cost for us except 30 mile drive). I would much rather see a quote with
minimum cost on SQL but add allowance for consulting (same total cost
even) than feel I am getting ripped off for the database part. OK,
ripped off is too strong...perhaps just the victim of miscommunication
when they determined what SQL Server is required - for which I have to
investigate for myself.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Dale Norris
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] More FRx Questions


Todd:

We are using FRX with SQL Server Std Edition running on its own server.
We previously did not have any SQL running anywhere. I bought it
directly from a mail order house (PCMall) for about $800 or so. It is
working just fine for us. We had Ben Nixon come on-site to set it up for
us (no one on site had any SQL experience). The only "gotcha" is getting
the right licensing codes from FRX/Epicor. Once we got the info
everything went pretty well.

Our Controller absolutely loves FRX. If you want to talk with him
directly, please contact me off-line. He will be out of the office for
the next week, but I am sure he would be willing to talk about it when
he gets back. I believe he manually "refreshes" the meta data before he
is going to run reports.

Hope this helps,

Dale Norris
IS Manager
Bullen Ultrasonics
dnorris@...


>>> caugheyt@... 11/10/2005 9:05 AM >>>

We are still weighing the pros and cons of FRx versus another product
called F9. Although similar in price FRx has the additional cost of SQL
Server. At the moment there is some confusion about what SQL Server
license is required to support FRx. Epicor is now a reseller for
Microsoft so has quoted SQL Server but their price is almost three times
what I see at CDW. I was told we needed: SQL server 2000 with 1
processor runtime + Software Assurance. CDW has SQL Server 2000
Standard Edition with software assurance for about $970.

Those of you using FRx for financial reporting....what SQL did you buy?
Was there some specific version that was required? Did you purchase it
via Epicor or seperately?

Also about FRx....
Does it work for you?
Is it easy to setup or were there startup problems?
Do you have the SQL Server database on the Vantage server or some other
server?
Do you run a nightly refresh of the SQL database and if so how long does
it take to run?
What sort of disk space is required?
Any other comments, especially surprise "gotchas" in using FRx?

We are really gun shy about further 3rd party products for Vantage after
a couple failures to perform as expected and surprises (especially VBI).
We currently do all of our financial reporting via massive spreadsheets
(both Lotus 1-2-3 and Excel) with data manually copied from Vantage
reports and screen. Our new controller is hot to consolidate all
financial info in Vantage and report directly from there. He has used
F9 previously and liked it a lot but it would require expensive custom
programming (at same total cost as FRx before SQL Server but subject to
"error factor" risks).

Thanks for any info from experienced FRx users - especially about the
SQL Server license required.

-Todd C.


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