[OT] Internet Usage

We had similar issues. I bought a piece of hardware that filters
internet content.



It wasn't just porn that we had issues with, it was also myspace,
instant messaging, personal email (hotmail etc.), travel sites.



My hardware is now blocking almost anything relating to travel,
shopping, email, porn, gambling, and about 10 other categories.



It was a last resort, but the time spent on those sites was staggering.



Ben







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Is it known to all employees that internet usage is monitored? Assuming
that is true, I would send out a reminder memo regarding such usage and that
it has been detected. Also include the policy statement.



If the prohibited usage does not stop then I would consider taking matters
to the next level. That would be contacting the perpetrator in a subtle but
clear manner.



We had one issue here where there was a bunch of porn saved on the server.
We just deleted all the goodies without notice. That got the point across
and it stopped.



Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162 a Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks





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I have taken similar action - removing the offending material without
prior notice. Nobody in their right mind would have the nerve to
challenge the action. Similarly, I've implemented content-filters on
Internet access in the same way - cut off access to sites that are
blatantly against policy and challenge anyone to question the decision.

I *highly* recommend switching the pointers to your external DNS-lookup
servers to point to OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). It is a free and very
easy way to implement basic content-filtering, which should help prevent
this in the future. Though it's free, the nature of how it's
implemented makes it very hard to circumvent, especially for the average
computer user.

--Ari
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Edward F. Fox, Jr.
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



Is it known to all employees that internet usage is monitored? Assuming
that is true, I would send out a reminder memo regarding such usage and
that
it has been detected. Also include the policy statement.

If the prohibited usage does not stop then I would consider taking
matters
to the next level. That would be contacting the perpetrator in a subtle
but
clear manner.

We had one issue here where there was a bunch of porn saved on the
server.
We just deleted all the goodies without notice. That got the point
across
and it stopped.

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162 a Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks

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Despite being OT I think this is worth group discussion because it could happen to any of us.

A lot depends on the nature of the material. In some states it is a felony to not repport it to the authorities immediately if it involves children. So that's probably the #1 driver. If this is the case document everything leading to the discovery, preserve any network records the police may need and meet with your boss, the president and HR all present.

Otherwise it can get really messy depending on how the President may feel about the particular person...especially if not a public held company. Very political and personal relationship considerations. How likely would it be for the messenger to be shot (figuratively)? Depending on your read of the situation you could try a couple preliminary routes....such as issuing a "routine" internet usage policy reminder to everyone. The manager involved may get the message. Our policy very clearly states that nothing on any PC, nor any internet usage, is private and may be subject to inspection at any time. Or, discuss it privately with your HR person (if you have one) and perhaps have them issue the reminder. If they are out of your "chain of command" you could perhaps discuss it with your boss and let them handle it or run it further up the chain.

Then too...job description wise and in relation to the policy in the handbook how explicit is your obligation and procedure for reporting such a thing. If vague then after the dust settles this incident should be a good reason to get this clarified. Anyone in charge of IT, and liable to come across this sort of violation in the course of supporting PCs, should have this spelled out clearly for their own protection. Come to think of it I don't have a procedure for this here...thanks for bringing this up.

-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage


I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks





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First, your policy must be in place, which it sounds like you have one. We
have all new employees sign our Internet and Email Policy which does state
that at anytime their Email and Internet usage can be monitored.

When we have had problems like this in the past I sent out a general email
to all employees, not calling out anyone specifically, to let them know that
these activities have been noticed and will not be tolerated and reminding
everyone of the policy they signed. Even though I knew who the person(s)
were I did not inform management of who they were even when specifically
asked because I believe everyone deserves a chance to reform their habits.
The problem have always stopped at that point except for one person who
continued to think they could get away with it, which that person was then
spoke to and eventually let go (due to the surfing porn and other issues).

Scott Litzau, MCP
Olympus Flag & Banner
Information Systems Manager


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Edward F. Fox, Jr.
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

Is it known to all employees that internet usage is monitored? Assuming
that is true, I would send out a reminder memo regarding such usage and that
it has been detected. Also include the policy statement.



If the prohibited usage does not stop then I would consider taking matters
to the next level. That would be contacting the perpetrator in a subtle but
clear manner.



We had one issue here where there was a bunch of porn saved on the server.
We just deleted all the goodies without notice. That got the point across
and it stopped.



Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162
Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks





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> I *highly* recommend switching the pointers to your external DNS-lookup
> servers to point to OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). It is a free and very
> easy way to implement basic content-filtering, which should help prevent
> this in the future. Though it's free, the nature of how it's
> implemented makes it very hard to circumvent, especially for the average
> computer user.

A second vote for OpenDNS. As a bonus, OpenDNS is one DNS service that stays
up on the latest security issues which has plagued other DNS services.

Mark W.
Interestingly, I have a good friend who faced the exact same situation, with the added twist that the manager and the president of that company were brothers.

First, make sure that you are absolutely solid on the facts. Is it possible, for example, that someone else was using the manager's computer? The facts may be that a search of the history from Internet Explorer on the manager's PC found visits to the taboo sites. You may not know that it was the manager who was doing the visits. (Think Joe Friday here - "Just the facts, sir").

Second, do you have a Human Resources department? If so, I would take the facts to them. Again, take them only the facts. Do not offer any opinion, whether you think the behavior is reprehensible or think it simply an innocent mistake. Do not offer any opinion about what you think the appropriate punishment should be. When taking the facts to the HR people, I would put the facts in writing. This will help avoid any misunderstanding of the facts if delivered orally. I would print out the facts, hand them to the appropriate HR person with the following statement, "This paper contains facts I have discovered in the course of my duties. The facts speak for themselves. If you need any more information from me, please let me know. Otherwise, I will leave this matter entirely in your hands and your responsibility."

If you do not have an HR department, substitute the president for the HR department. Obviously, that is a more delicate situation, but all the more reason to stick to the facts.

After the situation plays out, keep the entire matter to yourself. Do not share with colleagues, and especially not with coworkers (it probably would have been better to not even ask this group, though, I hope everyone here can be trusted to keep this to themselves). Do not question anything about any disciplinary action that may or may not be taken against the person. If the person is no longer there someday, you will probably know what happened. NEVER claim credit for having done this. It is not that you are ashamed of this, it is that it is no one's business why the action was taken. If you see no evidence of disciplinary action, that does not mean nothing happened. The guy may have taken a pay cut or lost out on a bonus, or some other action may have been taken that you will not know about.

Finally, protect yourself. Keep a copy of all the facts at home in a safe place. Depending on a lot of factors, if you suffer anything from bringing the facts to the appropriate party's attention, you may have cause for legal action. Only an attorney would be able to answer that for sure, but you will definitely be better off if you have documented the entire situation.

Thom Rose
Controller
Electric Mirror, LLC
T 425 776-4946 ext. 1024
A 11831 Beverly Park Road, Building D, Everett, WA 98204 USA
www.electricmirror.com<http://www.electricmirror.com/>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage


I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks



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When one of my duties was to contact the proper personnel about
inappropriate Internet usage, I always made a note of the browsing time
(what time of day it happened and how long they spent surfing inappropriate
sites). I included this information when I reported the usage. It has been
my experience that if the person does admit going to the site, they usually
blame it on an accidental click of the mouse. If they spent 2 hours doing
this, it was not an accident.

Just my experience

Jeff

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: {Disarmed} [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks

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I must also recommend OpenDNS. Implemented quickly, priced right and keeps
people out of trouble.

Good Luck,
-David


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ari Footlik
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



I have taken similar action - removing the offending material without
prior notice. Nobody in their right mind would have the nerve to
challenge the action. Similarly, I've implemented content-filters on
Internet access in the same way - cut off access to sites that are
blatantly against policy and challenge anyone to question the decision.

I *highly* recommend switching the pointers to your external DNS-lookup
servers to point to OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). It is a free and very
easy way to implement basic content-filtering, which should help prevent
this in the future. Though it's free, the nature of how it's
implemented makes it very hard to circumvent, especially for the average
computer user.

--Ari
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of Edward F. Fox, Jr.
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

Is it known to all employees that internet usage is monitored? Assuming
that is true, I would send out a reminder memo regarding such usage and
that
it has been detected. Also include the policy statement.

If the prohibited usage does not stop then I would consider taking
matters
to the next level. That would be contacting the perpetrator in a subtle
but
clear manner.

We had one issue here where there was a bunch of porn saved on the
server.
We just deleted all the goodies without notice. That got the point
across
and it stopped.

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162 a Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks

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I just signed up and looking at it.



Thanks all.



Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162 a Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Wonsil
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



> I *highly* recommend switching the pointers to your external DNS-lookup
> servers to point to OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). It is a free and very
> easy way to implement basic content-filtering, which should help prevent
> this in the future. Though it's free, the nature of how it's
> implemented makes it very hard to circumvent, especially for the average
> computer user.

A second vote for OpenDNS. As a bonus, OpenDNS is one DNS service that stays
up on the latest security issues which has plagued other DNS services.

Mark W.





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How the heck did I not know about OpenDNS. It sounds fantastic.



For those already using it...did you announce that you were going to be
implementing it or put it in place and handle the problems?



Mark



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



I have taken similar action - removing the offending material without
prior notice. Nobody in their right mind would have the nerve to
challenge the action. Similarly, I've implemented content-filters on
Internet access in the same way - cut off access to sites that are
blatantly against policy and challenge anyone to question the decision.

I *highly* recommend switching the pointers to your external DNS-lookup
servers to point to OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). It is a free and very
easy way to implement basic content-filtering, which should help prevent
this in the future. Though it's free, the nature of how it's
implemented makes it very hard to circumvent, especially for the average
computer user.

--Ari
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Edward F. Fox, Jr.
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

Is it known to all employees that internet usage is monitored? Assuming
that is true, I would send out a reminder memo regarding such usage and
that
it has been detected. Also include the policy statement.

If the prohibited usage does not stop then I would consider taking
matters
to the next level. That would be contacting the perpetrator in a subtle
but
clear manner.

We had one issue here where there was a bunch of porn saved on the
server.
We just deleted all the goodies without notice. That got the point
across
and it stopped.

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162 Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks

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Not only did I not announce it, I did it on my very first day at a new
job - it was, I think, the first thing I did! It's amazing how much
faster a T1 line can be when you prevent people from streaming radio and
video over it. ;)

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Tellefson
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:34 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage



How the heck did I not know about OpenDNS. It sounds fantastic.

For those already using it...did you announce that you were going to be
implementing it or put it in place and handle the problems?

Mark

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

I have taken similar action - removing the offending material without
prior notice. Nobody in their right mind would have the nerve to
challenge the action. Similarly, I've implemented content-filters on
Internet access in the same way - cut off access to sites that are
blatantly against policy and challenge anyone to question the decision.

I *highly* recommend switching the pointers to your external DNS-lookup
servers to point to OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). It is a free and very
easy way to implement basic content-filtering, which should help prevent
this in the future. Though it's free, the nature of how it's
implemented makes it very hard to circumvent, especially for the average
computer user.

--Ari
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Edward F. Fox, Jr.
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

Is it known to all employees that internet usage is monitored? Assuming
that is true, I would send out a reminder memo regarding such usage and
that
it has been detected. Also include the policy statement.

If the prohibited usage does not stop then I would consider taking
matters
to the next level. That would be contacting the perpetrator in a subtle
but
clear manner.

We had one issue here where there was a bunch of porn saved on the
server.
We just deleted all the goodies without notice. That got the point
across
and it stopped.

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA

Controller

Maxson Automatic Machinery Company

Phone 401-596-0162 Fax 401-596-1050

www.maxsonautomatic.com

_____

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<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
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Michael McWilliams
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage

I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks

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My policy is that if it's naked pictures, I talk to the guy alone. Not subtle, no hints, just flat out let him know that the company internet usage rules are, etc. I let him know that his internet usage logs are now being monitored, by me, personally, and on a daily basis. If he's dumb enough for 2nd time, I will print out the proof, hand it to HR and go back to my job.

I don't personally care if people look at porn, on their own time on their own PCs in their own homes. But most websites with porn are a security risk to the network and I don't tolerate it.
One warning because I think it's fair.

Child porn? no warning. I print out the proof and turn it over to HR.

Had to turn 2 people in in my 20 year life as IT admin, and 1 was fired.
So glad I am not in IT anymore, but now strictly ERP!
My own guys, I have all their monitors facing outward, if you're dumb enough to try ooking at porn in my department - you deserve to be fired.





----- Original Message ----
From: Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:59:14 AM
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Internet Usage


I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone management
doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email so
it does not clutter up the forums.
Thanks






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Corporate culture and the size of the company has so much to do with
this. I would agree with the opinion that an email that states that
you recently put up a web filter and noticed the inappropriate
websites, but I know that would work in my company. We are about 120
with a laid back attitude when it comes to internet usage. Everyone
that has contributed to this thread is spot on. It just depends on how
your company culture is.

One thought Just want to throw to you.......If you notify this person
is it possible that YOUR job could be in trouble? People with power
can be trouble.

My 2 cents
Jeff


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
>
> I have caught a member of management looking at porn sites while at
> work. I am stuck wondering if I should warn him or if I should bring
> this directly to the attention of the President who is his direct
> supervisor. Are handbook does state that this can lead to up to
> immediate termination. I have not had to deal with someone
management
> doing this. Since there are tech and non tech people on this forum I
> figured I would get some input. You can respond direct to my email
so
> it does not clutter up the forums.
> Thanks
>