[OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

I got a notice from VamSoft (maker of ORF) that version 4.0 had been released and has 64-bit support. In the notice was a new feature that blocks Auto Replies (such as Out of Office) from adding the sender to the whitelist - an added risk I had not thought of. At least this way OoO messages sent to spammers do not inadvertantly hand the spammer's a bypass on future filtering. I am hoping that this lookup is further developed to block sending auto responses to non-whitelist addresses.

Bummer factor is that although version 4.0 supports 64-bit...they postponed acutal Exchange 2007 support until 4.1...in a couple more months. In the mean time I keep searching for some way to block these replies to non-safe-senders on the server.

-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stulce
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules


We're on Exchange 2003 so maybe in 2007 it's different, but you open the
user properties in ADS, Exchange General tab, then open the Delivery
Restrictions button. There is a dialog for Accept Email. Tedious yes,
but it would work... and the user wouldn't be able to manipulate their
own list.

SpamBayes will work with Outlook 2003 on the client side, I don't know
if they've added Outlook 2007 support yet.

We use GFI MailEssentials and set it up on a separate server (older
hardware we had onsite) as our spam filter. Incoming SMTP comes into
the GFI server then if deemed good is sent to the Exchange server via
SMTP. Exchange and GFI talk over SMTP. We get about 5000 emails a
day, 90% of it spam, by off loading to separate hardware from our
Exchange server, it made our Exchange faster. GFI does have an
integrated mode. We didn't use it because I wanted to off load the
processor load and we don't need to worry about the spam filter being
compatible with future versions of Exchange as the two communicate via
SMTP. There is an user client to train the GFI filters that is very
easy to use.

Thanks,
Randy Stulce
<http://www.companionsystems.com/> <http://www.companionsystems.com/>
<http://www.companionsystems.com/>

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 7:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

Thanks. I've looked all over to find a way to accept mail only from
"Safe Senders" but did not find it. Then again I was looking in the
rules wizard. I did not see a way to test against the safe senders. But
being on the client would not help my notebook users who "take it with
them". I was hoping for something on the server side. I'm not even sure
where the safe senders lists are stored for each user....the SQL Server
DB perhaps?

We had enterprise wide spam filtering until we went to Exchange 2007 (64
bit) and Open Relay Filter (ORF) would not work. ORF is cheap and does a
great job. They claim 64-bit support is on the way for the next version
but until then we make do with the limited Exchange capabilities. On the
clients I've used SpamBayes for years and I do like it a lot. Between
the Outlook 2003 junk filtering and it the spam is manageable but there
is no need to invite more with Out of Office confirmations.

-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Randy Stulce
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

Well, you could set their email account to only accept email from a
"safe senders list" then have them turn on out of office. You need
rights to change their ADS settings to do this though.

Do you have any Enterprise wide spam filter? If not you could setup
SpamBayes (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html
<http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html> ) it's a good
free Spam Filter for individual users. I use it at home to kill spam
and once trained it works great. But each of your users would have to
train it as it runs locally on their PC.

We used it at work for some users until we got our enterprise wide
filter up and running.

Thanks,
Randy Stulce
<http://www.companionsystems.com/ <http://www.companionsystems.com/> > <
http://www.companionsystems.com/ <http://www.companionsystems.com/> >
<http://www.companionsystems.com/ <http://www.companionsystems.com/> >

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On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

I tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoid
increase in junk mail. Our President requires people with customer
contact to use them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. I
had the thought that it would be nice to limit these messages to people
on "safe senders list". Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003?
Something to look forward to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a
"rule" that does this? Or maybe something in Exchange 2007 on the server
side that can limit OoO responses?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg Co.

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I tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoid increase in junk mail. Our President requires people with customer contact to use them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. I had the thought that it would be nice to limit these messages to people on "safe senders list". Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003? Something to look forward to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a "rule" that does this? Or maybe something in Exchange 2007 on the server side that can limit OoO responses?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg Co.

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Todd,

We are using Outlook 2003 with POP3 email accounts (meaning no Exchange
server). We setup mail rules to implement out of office functionality.
(Unfortunately, this means the persons computer needs to stay on with
Outlook running for it to work).

Our rule is basically:
for all messages, if sender is in the users contacts address book, reply
with a template


Hope that helps,

Dan Snyder
IT Manager
Mercury Electronics
717-428-0222 ext.224


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules



I tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoid increase
in junk mail. Our President requires people with customer contact to use
them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. I had the thought that
it would be nice to limit these messages to people on "safe senders list".
Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003? Something to look forward
to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a "rule" that does this? Or maybe
something in Exchange 2007 on the server side that can limit OoO responses?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg Co.



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7691/stime=1182957901/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848546/nc3=3848642>



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Well, you could set their email account to only accept email from a
"safe senders list" then have them turn on out of office. You need
rights to change their ADS settings to do this though.



Do you have any Enterprise wide spam filter? If not you could setup
SpamBayes (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html) it's a good
free Spam Filter for individual users. I use it at home to kill spam
and once trained it works great. But each of your users would have to
train it as it runs locally on their PC.



We used it at work for some users until we got our enterprise wide
filter up and running.





Thanks,
Randy Stulce
<http://www.companionsystems.com/> <http://www.companionsystems.com/>
<http://www.companionsystems.com/>

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules



I tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoid
increase in junk mail. Our President requires people with customer
contact to use them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. I
had the thought that it would be nice to limit these messages to people
on "safe senders list". Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003?
Something to look forward to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a
"rule" that does this? Or maybe something in Exchange 2007 on the server
side that can limit OoO responses?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg Co.

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Thanks. I've looked all over to find a way to accept mail only from "Safe Senders" but did not find it. Then again I was looking in the rules wizard. I did not see a way to test against the safe senders. But being on the client would not help my notebook users who "take it with them". I was hoping for something on the server side. I'm not even sure where the safe senders lists are stored for each user....the SQL Server DB perhaps?

We had enterprise wide spam filtering until we went to Exchange 2007 (64 bit) and Open Relay Filter (ORF) would not work. ORF is cheap and does a great job. They claim 64-bit support is on the way for the next version but until then we make do with the limited Exchange capabilities. On the clients I've used SpamBayes for years and I do like it a lot. Between the Outlook 2003 junk filtering and it the spam is manageable but there is no need to invite more with Out of Office confirmations.

-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stulce
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules


Well, you could set their email account to only accept email from a
"safe senders list" then have them turn on out of office. You need
rights to change their ADS settings to do this though.

Do you have any Enterprise wide spam filter? If not you could setup
SpamBayes (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html) it's a good
free Spam Filter for individual users. I use it at home to kill spam
and once trained it works great. But each of your users would have to
train it as it runs locally on their PC.

We used it at work for some users until we got our enterprise wide
filter up and running.

Thanks,
Randy Stulce
<http://www.companionsystems.com/> <http://www.companionsystems.com/>
<http://www.companionsystems.com/>

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

I tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoid
increase in junk mail. Our President requires people with customer
contact to use them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. I
had the thought that it would be nice to limit these messages to people
on "safe senders list". Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003?
Something to look forward to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a
"rule" that does this? Or maybe something in Exchange 2007 on the server
side that can limit OoO responses?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg Co.

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Todd,
Not being an exchange expert, I wonder if you could set up rules to reply with the OOO message with a from address which has incoming disabled at the smtp gateway..

That is, perhaps have a bogus user account set up in AD that has the address Autosystem@... and then your rule might reply with OOO messages that says REPLY FROM:autosystem@... so that the message goes out, but under recipient filters in the SMTP gateway or by setting the block on a different SMTP FE, block all messages coming in.

There might need to be a way to strip the previous headers from the message....or maybe instead of a reply rule, create a new message rule.
This rule could write message contents stating that "The user you attempted to contact is not in the office".

And then, if any spammers attempt to use this new address for future emails, it would be dropped at the SMTP level.

Carey


To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: caugheyt@...: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:09:18 -0500Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules




Thanks. I've looked all over to find a way to accept mail only from "Safe Senders" but did not find it. Then again I was looking in the rules wizard. I did not see a way to test against the safe senders. But being on the client would not help my notebook users who "take it with them". I was hoping for something on the server side. I'm not even sure where the safe senders lists are stored for each user....the SQL Server DB perhaps?We had enterprise wide spam filtering until we went to Exchange 2007 (64 bit) and Open Relay Filter (ORF) would not work. ORF is cheap and does a great job. They claim 64-bit support is on the way for the next version but until then we make do with the limited Exchange capabilities. On the clients I've used SpamBayes for years and I do like it a lot. Between the Outlook 2003 junk filtering and it the spam is manageable but there is no need to invite more with Out of Office confirmations.-Todd C.________________________________From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy StulceSent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:03 PMTo: vantage@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office RulesWell, you could set their email account to only accept email from a"safe senders list" then have them turn on out of office. You needrights to change their ADS settings to do this though.Do you have any Enterprise wide spam filter? If not you could setupSpamBayes (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html) it's a goodfree Spam Filter for individual users. I use it at home to kill spamand once trained it works great. But each of your users would have totrain it as it runs locally on their PC.We used it at work for some users until we got our enterprise widefilter up and running.Thanks,Randy Stulce<http://www.companionsystems.com/> <http://www.companionsystems.com/><http://www.companionsystems.com/>________________________________From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On BehalfOf Todd CaugheySent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 AMTo: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office RulesI tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoidincrease in junk mail. Our President requires people with customercontact to use them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. Ihad the thought that it would be nice to limit these messages to peopleon "safe senders list". Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003?Something to look forward to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a"rule" that does this? Or maybe something in Exchange 2007 on the serverside that can limit OoO responses?Thanks,Todd CaugheyHarvey Vogel Mfg Co.________________________________The information contained in this E-mail message and any documents whichmay be attached are privileged and confidential, and may be protectedfrom disclosure.Please be aware that any use, printing, copying, disclosure ordissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restrictionor sanction. If you think you have received this message in error,please reply to the sender.For more information please visit www.harveyvogel.com[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]----------------------------------------------------------This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. We virus-scan all outgoing mail, but accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.QS Disclaimer Demo. Copyright (C) Pa-software.Visit www.pa-software.com for more information.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]________________________________The information contained in this E-mail message and any documents which may be attached are privileged and confidential, and may be protected from disclosure.Please be aware that any use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you think you have received this message in error, please reply to the sender.For more information please visit www.harveyvogel.com[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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We're on Exchange 2003 so maybe in 2007 it's different, but you open the
user properties in ADS, Exchange General tab, then open the Delivery
Restrictions button. There is a dialog for Accept Email. Tedious yes,
but it would work... and the user wouldn't be able to manipulate their
own list.



SpamBayes will work with Outlook 2003 on the client side, I don't know
if they've added Outlook 2007 support yet.



We use GFI MailEssentials and set it up on a separate server (older
hardware we had onsite) as our spam filter. Incoming SMTP comes into
the GFI server then if deemed good is sent to the Exchange server via
SMTP. Exchange and GFI talk over SMTP. We get about 5000 emails a
day, 90% of it spam, by off loading to separate hardware from our
Exchange server, it made our Exchange faster. GFI does have an
integrated mode. We didn't use it because I wanted to off load the
processor load and we don't need to worry about the spam filter being
compatible with future versions of Exchange as the two communicate via
SMTP. There is an user client to train the GFI filters that is very
easy to use.





Thanks,
Randy Stulce
<http://www.companionsystems.com/> <http://www.companionsystems.com/>
<http://www.companionsystems.com/>

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 7:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules



Thanks. I've looked all over to find a way to accept mail only from
"Safe Senders" but did not find it. Then again I was looking in the
rules wizard. I did not see a way to test against the safe senders. But
being on the client would not help my notebook users who "take it with
them". I was hoping for something on the server side. I'm not even sure
where the safe senders lists are stored for each user....the SQL Server
DB perhaps?

We had enterprise wide spam filtering until we went to Exchange 2007 (64
bit) and Open Relay Filter (ORF) would not work. ORF is cheap and does a
great job. They claim 64-bit support is on the way for the next version
but until then we make do with the limited Exchange capabilities. On the
clients I've used SpamBayes for years and I do like it a lot. Between
the Outlook 2003 junk filtering and it the spam is manageable but there
is no need to invite more with Out of Office confirmations.

-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Randy Stulce
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

Well, you could set their email account to only accept email from a
"safe senders list" then have them turn on out of office. You need
rights to change their ADS settings to do this though.

Do you have any Enterprise wide spam filter? If not you could setup
SpamBayes (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html
<http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html> ) it's a good
free Spam Filter for individual users. I use it at home to kill spam
and once trained it works great. But each of your users would have to
train it as it runs locally on their PC.

We used it at work for some users until we got our enterprise wide
filter up and running.

Thanks,
Randy Stulce
<http://www.companionsystems.com/ <http://www.companionsystems.com/> > <
http://www.companionsystems.com/ <http://www.companionsystems.com/> >
<http://www.companionsystems.com/ <http://www.companionsystems.com/> >

________________________________

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On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Outlook 2003 Out of Office Rules

I tell people to not use "out of office" notices in order to avoid
increase in junk mail. Our President requires people with customer
contact to use them. Then they complain about all the new junk mail. I
had the thought that it would be nice to limit these messages to people
on "safe senders list". Anyone know if this is possible in Outlook 2003?
Something to look forward to in Outlook 2007? Any way to construct a
"rule" that does this? Or maybe something in Exchange 2007 on the server
side that can limit OoO responses?
Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg Co.

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