OT: Root Partition

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Instead of re-partitioning software, try partition cloning software to
clone the partitions to new drives with larger partitions.

I use a freeware version called DriveImage XML that work with XP or
W2K3. Since you are running W2K, try HDClone or Norton Ghost.

Daniel M Tisone

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mitchell Kirby
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition

I took all of the temp files and patch files off. This is our Vantage
production server so the pucker factor is high. We reformatted and
resized
the root partition a couple of years ago. Subsequent software
installations
have run it out of space again. I put a new drive in to free up space
on
the secondary partition so I can add it to the root partition, but I
really
didn't want to spend all day reinstalling everything.



Sounds like I need to plan a weekend to do it again. Thanks for the
advice.



Sincerely,



Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com



740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
Todd Hofert
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:42 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition



Mitchell,

Have you deleted temp files etc? How about the Windows Patch uninstall
files? I have a server that routinely runs low on disk space and I move
these uninstall files to the larger data partition of the server and
eventually delete them from there.

Todd

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To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition

Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out of
space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't mention
W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here rather
than
call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience than a
salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten <http://www.riten.com/> com/ <http://www.riten
<http://www.riten.com/> com/> > www.riten.com

740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out of
space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't mention
W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here rather than
call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience than a
salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.



Sincerely,



Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com



740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX





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Personally, I would never use it on a server.

Todd

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mitchell Kirby
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition



Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out of
space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't mention
W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here rather
than
call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience than a
salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/ <http://www.riten.com/> > www.riten.com

740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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AFAIK Partition Magic will not work on any Server.
It looks for the boot.ini file to see what OS is installed.
(In desperation I have renamed the boot.ini file, used PM to do what
needed to be done and then renamed the boot.ini file back again)

Do this entirely at your own risk and make sure you have a backup
image before trying.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mitchell Kirby" <m.kirby@...> wrote:
>
> Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out
of
> space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't
mention
> W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here
rather than
> call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience
than a
> salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Mitchell Kirby
>
> Riten Industries, Inc.
>
> <http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com
>
>
>
> 740-333-8719 Direct
>
> 800-338-0027 Sales
>
> 800-338-0717 FAX
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I resized the partitions on a W2K server about a month ago. At the time, it
was running as a backup domain controller (BDC) and only hosting one small
application - a simple matter of copying about 16 MB of data to back the
program up. I wanted to use it for other services but wasn't happy with the
partition layout. There was [essentially] no risk if I lost the server.

I used Gnome partition editor: available for free download at
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ <http://gparted.sourceforge.net/> . You
download a 20MB ISO file and burn it to CD. The CD is bootable. The tool
has an easy to use graphical interface.

My drive was initially two partitions that I wanted as one large partition
(C - 6 GB and D - 12 GB => C - 18 GB). I removed everything from the second
partition, then rebooted the server with the CD to run Gnome partition
editor. I deleted the second partition, resized the first to take up the
remaining space and applied the changes.

After rebooting, Windows automatically launched a check disk utility -
didn't like the checksums on the current drive (or something). It took
about 15 minutes for it to check the new partition - then it booted into the
operating system as normal. Everything ran fine. Another reboot showed
completely normal operation - no check disk during the boot phase.

It is definitely possible (though, not sure about Partition Magic).

Hope this helps,

Chris

Christopher Gitzlaff
Manager - Information Systems & Technology
Major Industries, Inc.
Phone: 715.842.4616 ext. 323
Email: cgitzlaff@... <mailto:cgitzlaff@...>

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Hofert
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition



Personally, I would never use it on a server.

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of Mitchell Kirby
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition

Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out of
space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't mention
W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here rather
than
call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience than a
salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten <http://www.riten.com/> com/ <http://www.riten
<http://www.riten.com/> com/> > www.riten.com

740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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Mitchell,

Have you deleted temp files etc? How about the Windows Patch uninstall
files? I have a server that routinely runs low on disk space and I move
these uninstall files to the larger data partition of the server and
eventually delete them from there.

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mitchell Kirby
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition



Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out of
space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't mention
W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here rather
than
call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience than a
salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/ <http://www.riten.com/> > www.riten.com

740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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I took all of the temp files and patch files off. This is our Vantage
production server so the pucker factor is high. We reformatted and resized
the root partition a couple of years ago. Subsequent software installations
have run it out of space again. I put a new drive in to free up space on
the secondary partition so I can add it to the root partition, but I really
didn't want to spend all day reinstalling everything.



Sounds like I need to plan a weekend to do it again. Thanks for the advice.



Sincerely,



Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com



740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Hofert
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:42 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition



Mitchell,

Have you deleted temp files etc? How about the Windows Patch uninstall
files? I have a server that routinely runs low on disk space and I move
these uninstall files to the larger data partition of the server and
eventually delete them from there.

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of Mitchell Kirby
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Root Partition

Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out of
space. The web site said it works on W2K Professional but didn't mention
W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better answer here rather
than
call Symantec. I would rather believe the real world experience than a
salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.

Sincerely,

Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten <http://www.riten.com/> com/ <http://www.riten
<http://www.riten.com/> com/> > www.riten.com

740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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bw2868bond wrote:
> AFAIK Partition Magic will not work on any Server.
> It looks for the boot.ini file to see what OS is installed.
> (In desperation I have renamed the boot.ini file, used PM to do what

I **WOULD NOT** use Partition Magic on any current NTFS file system,
PERIOD! I used to use it a lot on FAT disks, and it never failed me.
But I've tried it on Win2000 NFTS workstations recently, and over 2/3rds
of the attempts have resulted in a trashed disk. There is a similar
open-source utility "Gnome Partition Editor" at
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ that is supposedly more reliable than
Partition magic; but I'd still try other alternatives first.

Get this shareware utility, DiskData http://www.digallery.com/diskdata/
Essential windoze tool! It will quickly identify where your space is
being chewed up (why microsoft has added countless animated "pets" to
their OS, but never anything this useful is beyond me?!?) You'll
probably find the 80/20 rule applies, and one or two directories of
disposable junk are to blame for the majority of the space.

> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mitchell Kirby" <m.kirby@...> wrote:
> Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root partition is out
> of space.

Lots of people don't know, but since Win2000 you can "mount" a partition
at any directory point on another partition, like unix has done for
decades. For example, you have C:\BigData that is rapidly outgrowing
space, but for whatever reason, it has to stay on C:\.

You can:
1) Temporarily backup or copy it somewhere else.
2) Delete everything under C:\BigData to regain the space, but leave the
directory itself.
3) Use windows Disk Management to create a partition on a new disk, or
in free space.
4) Go into "Assign New Drive Letter or Path"; don't assign a drive
letter, use "Mount in this NTFS folder" and place the new partition
over C:\BigData
5) Restore the original stuff to C:\BigData

Obviously, you'll have to boot users and shutdown applications accessing
the data while you do this. It also doesn't work well (or at all) on
system directories like \WinNT, \Windows or \ProgramFiles. If
\DocumentsAndSettings is too big, windows has other methods of moving
users' stuff to alternate locations.

You can also check for swap files on C:\ and move them elsewhere.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three, Inc. -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338 or 866-550-2323 www.xxiii.com
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The first time I used partition commander version 9
from V-com.com on a W2K dell server works fine, that
was on february of this year, I'm going to use it
again in the next two months.



--- bw2868bond <bwalker@...> wrote:

> AFAIK Partition Magic will not work on any Server.
> It looks for the boot.ini file to see what OS is
> installed.
> (In desperation I have renamed the boot.ini file,
> used PM to do what
> needed to be done and then renamed the boot.ini file
> back again)
>
> Do this entirely at your own risk and make sure you
> have a backup
> image before trying.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mitchell Kirby"
> <m.kirby@...> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root
> partition is out
> of
> > space. The web site said it works on W2K
> Professional but didn't
> mention
> > W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better
> answer here
> rather than
> > call Symantec. I would rather believe the real
> world experience
> than a
> > salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mitchell Kirby
> >
> > Riten Industries, Inc.
> >
> > <http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 740-333-8719 Direct
> >
> > 800-338-0027 Sales
> >
> > 800-338-0717 FAX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>


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I'll second that on Partition Commander (part of Drive Works). Our Vantage server originally ran NT 4.0 and for some reason it would not handle the 18GB drive so the one partion had 9GB and the other 9GB was unused. After migrating top Win2K server the consulting technician was thuroughly surprised that we were able to add the empty space to the existing partition. I don't recall it being very expensive...something I picked up at CompUSA.
-Todd C.


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Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 11:09 AM
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The first time I used partition commander version 9
from V-com.com on a W2K dell server works fine, that
was on february of this year, I'm going to use it
again in the next two months.

--- bw2868bond < bwalker@adcocircuit <mailto:bwalker%40adcocircuits.com> s.com> wrote:

> AFAIK Partition Magic will not work on any Server.
> It looks for the boot.ini file to see what OS is
> installed.
> (In desperation I have renamed the boot.ini file,
> used PM to do what
> needed to be done and then renamed the boot.ini file
> back again)
>
> Do this entirely at your own risk and make sure you
> have a backup
> image before trying.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Mitchell Kirby"
> <m.kirby@...> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody use PartionMagic on a W2K Server? My root
> partition is out
> of
> > space. The web site said it works on W2K
> Professional but didn't
> mention
> > W2K Server. I figured I could get a faster/better
> answer here
> rather than
> > call Symantec. I would rather believe the real
> world experience
> than a
> > salesperson who turns pages to answer my question.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mitchell Kirby
> >
> > Riten Industries, Inc.
> >
> > < http://www.riten. <http://www.riten.com/> com/> www.riten.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 740-333-8719 Direct
> >
> > 800-338-0027 Sales
> >
> > 800-338-0717 FAX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

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