Part Maintenance

system · March 19, 2012, 8:23pm

found it in a bpm for part update, thanks..

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From: jdaniel1127@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:29:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance

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ok, let me look at that and see if there is a BPM someplace setting it. I haven't dealt with those yet. Have been focused on BAQ's, Dashboards and Crystal reports...

----- Original Message -----
From: "bw2868bond" < bwalker@... >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:40:51 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance

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BPMs not copied to fresh Vantage install.....

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com , "b_ordway" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> It's working on a backup, that is strange. Would running a backup/restore fix any errors? Are you progress? Have you tried rebuilding indexes on the live database.
>
> Also I've seen job records get into "state" where they don't update correctly. I've been able to clear some of these by toggling field values. Maybe the same thing can happen with parts? Can you try changing a few like nonstock, qty bearing, etc...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com , jdaniel1127@ wrote:
> >
> > What makes it even more strange is that backed up our database, installed progress and vantage on another server, restored the database backup and that one let's me change it and it stays changed????
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Driggers" <waffqle@>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:09:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance
> >
> > We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
> > just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> > > I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> > > That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com , "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 8.03.408B on Progress
> > > >
> > > > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> > > and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> > > cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> > > sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> > > first to allow this??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > James
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system · August 21, 2008, 12:49pm

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only
change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
seem pretty extreme.

Mike

system · August 21, 2008, 1:05pm

What about a customisation using BeforeFieldChange?

Maybe if you listed each field he's allowed to change followed by a
Case Else to cover everything he's not, something like:

Case "MinQty"
Case "MaxQty"
if PartForm.Session.UserID = "whse.manager" then
// Allowed to change
end if

Case Else
if PartForm.Session.UserID = "whse.manager" then
messagebox.show("You do not have permission to amend this
field." + chr(13) + "Please change it back.", "Error.",
MessageBoxButtons.OK, MessageBoxIcon.Error)
Throw new UIException()
end if

Nigel.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Barnard" <mbarnard@...> wrote:
>
> I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to
only
> change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
> max, safety, weight bin etc.
>
> I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
> records.
>
> What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
> seem pretty extreme.
>
>
> Mike
>

system · August 21, 2008, 3:56pm

We (and I would expect most companies) have the same issue. We ended up creating 3 customized versions of Part Maintenance.

Each has the displayed fields tailored to suit the job function:

One only showing Inventory control related field data, one only showing Planning related data, and one essentially 'full blown' version for Engineering so all basic info is filled out using defualt values during initial part creation.

Each is deployed on a different menu tailored to only be accessed by the target users.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Mike Barnard <mbarnard@...> wrote:

From: Mike Barnard <mbarnard@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only
change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
seem pretty extreme.

Mike

system · August 21, 2008, 4:10pm

Robert,

How do you handle the customization for the context menus? I have done the same thing but I can't keep the people from getting to the full blown maintenance if they right click the part number from another application like Order Tracker. The context menu takes them to the normal part maintenance.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

We (and I would expect most companies) have the same issue. We ended up creating 3 customized versions of Part Maintenance.

Each has the displayed fields tailored to suit the job function:

One only showing Inventory control related field data, one only showing Planning related data, and one essentially 'full blown' version for Engineering so all basic info is filled out using defualt values during initial part creation.

Each is deployed on a different menu tailored to only be accessed by the target users.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Mike Barnard <mbarnard@...<mailto:mbarnard%40natdoor.com>> wrote:

From: Mike Barnard <mbarnard@...<mailto:mbarnard%40natdoor.com>>
Subject: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only
change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
seem pretty extreme.

Mike

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system · August 21, 2008, 4:25pm

The context link just points them to Part Entry in order management > setup
I believe. You will have to set up security for that menu so your users
cannot access that one. Then create other context menus for your customized
part entry screen. The only bad thing is that you will see all the context
menu items in the list when right clicking in the part number. You will
just have to train your users one which one they can pick (the other ones
should be locked with security)

Daniel

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Charles Carden
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:10 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

Robert,

How do you handle the customization for the context menus? I have done the
same thing but I can't keep the people from getting to the full blown
maintenance if they right click the part number from another application
like Order Tracker. The context menu takes them to the normal part
maintenance.

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

We (and I would expect most companies) have the same issue. We ended up
creating 3 customized versions of Part Maintenance.

Each has the displayed fields tailored to suit the job function:

One only showing Inventory control related field data, one only showing
Planning related data, and one essentially 'full blown' version for
Engineering so all basic info is filled out using defualt values during
initial part creation.

Each is deployed on a different menu tailored to only be accessed by the
target users.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor.
<mailto:mbarnard%40natdoor.com> com<mailto:mbarnard%40natdoor.com>> wrote:

From: Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor. <mailto:mbarnard%40natdoor.com>
com<mailto:mbarnard%40natdoor.com>>
Subject: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only
change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
seem pretty extreme.

Mike

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system · August 21, 2008, 4:34pm

Charles, we rely on Process Maintenance to do that by limiting access to bo..Part.Update to only those groups that have update requirements.
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Regards,
-Karl-

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Charles Carden <ccarden@...> wrote:

From: Charles Carden <ccarden@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:10 PM

Robert,

How do you handle the customization for the context menus? I have done the same thing but I can't keep the people from getting to the full blown maintenance if they right click the part number from another application like Order Tracker. The context menu takes them to the normal part maintenance.

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

We (and I would expect most companies) have the same issue. We ended up creating 3 customized versions of Part Maintenance.

Each has the displayed fields tailored to suit the job function:

One only showing Inventory control related field data, one only showing Planning related data, and one essentially 'full blown' version for Engineering so all basic info is filled out using defualt values during initial part creation.

Each is deployed on a different menu tailored to only be accessed by the target users.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor. com<mailto:mbarnard% 40natdoor. com>> wrote:

From: Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor. com<mailto:mbarnard% 40natdoor. com>>
Subject: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com<mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only
change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
seem pretty extreme.

Mike

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system · August 21, 2008, 10:48pm

I didn't do the context menu maintenance but I'll ask the guy that did and get back to you as whatever it is he did works.

My hunch would be that it was done in conjunction with the user type roles we have established (that also control access to general menus and applications).

Something to consider: I happen to have all 3 roles assigned to my userID that give me access to each version (depending upon what menu section I'm in)... I personally find it a pain in the neck as I more often than not can't do what I need to do to a part in the right context menu launched version that ends up loading.

In our case, there is only a handful of us in this situation - so the 'greater good' was served by deploying 3 customized versions. If you have a LOT of users that might fall into a situation like mine, the 'greater good' might NOT be served by deploying multiple customizations.

Case in point: Vendor Maintenance. We have a similar situation with this app in that we want to limit specific user roles to a specific set of editing capabilities. In this case, the 'best' solution was a single customization that utilizes the 'who am i' session load method to determine the userID, get the user's associated role(s) and then enable or disable specific controls based on the role(s).

Personally, although it ends up imbedding some of the security control within the customization (definitely not an ideal practice), the results are better as all users can SEE all fields in the app. In the long term, these users (compared to our Part Maintenance users) are more likely to be able to be cross trained and allow responsibilities to be shifted from one department to another (if it makes us more efficient to do so sometime in the future).

Our 3 customized Parts Maintenance apps completely hide fields from groups of users... This fosters very departmental 'silo' thinking - and makes it unlikely daily use will lead to self learning and insight that would make cross training or process responsibility shifting between departments easy to do in the future.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Charles Carden <ccarden@...> wrote:
From: Charles Carden <ccarden@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 4:10 PM

Robert,

How do you handle the customization for the context menus? I have done the same thing but I can't keep the people from getting to the full blown maintenance if they right click the part number from another application like Order Tracker. The context menu takes them to the normal part maintenance.

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Robert Brown

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:57 PM

To: vantage@yahoogroups .com

Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

We (and I would expect most companies) have the same issue. We ended up creating 3 customized versions of Part Maintenance.

Each has the displayed fields tailored to suit the job function:

One only showing Inventory control related field data, one only showing Planning related data, and one essentially 'full blown' version for Engineering so all basic info is filled out using defualt values during initial part creation.

Each is deployed on a different menu tailored to only be accessed by the target users.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor. com<mailto:mbarnard% 40natdoor. com>> wrote:

From: Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor. com<mailto:mbarnard% 40natdoor. com>>

Subject: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

To: vantage@yahoogroups .com<mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>

Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only

change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,

max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete

records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security

seem pretty extreme.

Mike

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system · August 21, 2008, 10:52pm

Actually - no... However my compadre set up the context menus did NOT result in all versions showing up when right clicking into the menus.

...I'll let you know how he did it when I find out.

Rob

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Daniel Laidig <daniellaidig@...> wrote:
From: Daniel Laidig <daniellaidig@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Part Maintenance
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 4:24 PM

The context link just points them to Part Entry in order management > setup

I believe. You will have to set up security for that menu so your users

cannot access that one. Then create other context menus for your customized

part entry screen. The only bad thing is that you will see all the context

menu items in the list when right clicking in the part number. You will

just have to train your users one which one they can pick (the other ones

should be locked with security)

Daniel

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of

Charles Carden

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:10 PM

To: vantage@yahoogroups .com

Subject: RE: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

Robert,

How do you handle the customization for the context menus? I have done the

same thing but I can't keep the people from getting to the full blown

maintenance if they right click the part number from another application

like Order Tracker. The context menu takes them to the normal part

maintenance.

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com> .com

[mailto:vantage@ yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com> .com] On

Behalf Of Robert Brown

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:57 PM

To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com> .com

Subject: Re: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

We (and I would expect most companies) have the same issue. We ended up

creating 3 customized versions of Part Maintenance.

Each has the displayed fields tailored to suit the job function:

One only showing Inventory control related field data, one only showing

Planning related data, and one essentially 'full blown' version for

Engineering so all basic info is filled out using defualt values during

initial part creation.

Each is deployed on a different menu tailored to only be accessed by the

target users.

Rob Brown

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor.

<mailto:mbarnard% 40natdoor. com> com<mailto:mbarnard %40natdoor. com>> wrote:

From: Mike Barnard <mbarnard@natdoor. <mailto:mbarnard% 40natdoor. com>

com<mailto:mbarnard %40natdoor. com>>

Subject: [Vantage] Part Maintenance

To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>

.com<mailto: vantage%40yahoog roups.com>

Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only

change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,

max, safety, weight bin etc.

I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete

records.

What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security

seem pretty extreme.

Mike

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system · August 22, 2008, 12:31am

> I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to only
> change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
> max, safety, weight bin etc.
>
> I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
> records.
>
> What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
> seem pretty extreme.

If you have some $$$ and time and patience...

....you could try the Epicor Portal. It does seem to be designed to allow
restricted users to update limited information. See the web cast:

https://epicweb.epicor.com/resources/webcasts/Pages/GC_WC_ContentPacks_08060
8.aspx

Mark W.

system · August 25, 2008, 3:53pm

One way would be, if you are are using a version with the BPM, to
create a pre-process that could verify the userID and restric the
update.

Germain

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Barnard" <mbarnard@...> wrote:
>
> I need to let the Whse Manager have access to Part Maintenance to
only
> change fields on a single tab (Plants) to basically change the min,
> max, safety, weight bin etc.
>
> I do not want to allow to change any other fields or to add/delete
> records.
>
> What is the best way to accomplish this? Field and Process Security
> seem pretty extreme.
>
>
> Mike
>

system · March 15, 2012, 9:39pm

8.03.408B on Progress

We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed first to allow this??

Thanks,

James

system · March 16, 2012, 8:26am

>as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??

I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
>
> 8.03.408B on Progress
>
> We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed first to allow this??
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>

system · March 16, 2012, 10:09am

We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
> >
> > 8.03.408B on Progress
> >
> > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> first to allow this??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
> >
>
>
>

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system · March 16, 2012, 10:37pm

What makes it even more strange is that backed up our database, installed progress and vantage on another server, restored the database backup and that one let's me change it and it stays changed????

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Driggers" <waffqle@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:09:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance

We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@...> wrote:
> >
> > 8.03.408B on Progress
> >
> > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> first to allow this??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
> >
>
> Â
>

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system · March 17, 2012, 10:13am

It's working on a backup, that is strange. Would running a backup/restore fix any errors? Are you progress? Have you tried rebuilding indexes on the live database.

Also I've seen job records get into "state" where they don't update correctly. I've been able to clear some of these by toggling field values. Maybe the same thing can happen with parts? Can you try changing a few like nonstock, qty bearing, etc...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, jdaniel1127@... wrote:
>
> What makes it even more strange is that backed up our database, installed progress and vantage on another server, restored the database backup and that one let's me change it and it stays changed????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Driggers" <waffqle@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:09:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance
>
> We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
> just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> > I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> > That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 8.03.408B on Progress
> > >
> > > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> > and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> > cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> > sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> > first to allow this??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> >
> > Ã‚Â
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *John Driggers*
> *High End Dev, System Design, Profit Drinking*
> *
> **:: 904.404.9233*
> *:: waffqle@...*
> *:: NO FAXES*
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: Ã‚Â You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Ã‚Â
> (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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system · March 17, 2012, 11:41am

BPMs not copied to fresh Vantage install.....

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "b_ordway" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> It's working on a backup, that is strange. Would running a backup/restore fix any errors? Are you progress? Have you tried rebuilding indexes on the live database.
>
> Also I've seen job records get into "state" where they don't update correctly. I've been able to clear some of these by toggling field values. Maybe the same thing can happen with parts? Can you try changing a few like nonstock, qty bearing, etc...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, jdaniel1127@ wrote:
> >
> > What makes it even more strange is that backed up our database, installed progress and vantage on another server, restored the database backup and that one let's me change it and it stays changed????
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Driggers" <waffqle@>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:09:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance
> >
> > We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
> > just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> > > I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> > > That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 8.03.408B on Progress
> > > >
> > > > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> > > and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> > > cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> > > sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> > > first to allow this??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ã‚Â
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *John Driggers*
> > *High End Dev, System Design, Profit Drinking*
> > *
> > **:: 904.404.9233*
> > *:: waffqle@*
> > *:: NO FAXES*
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: Ã‚Â You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Ã‚Â
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

system · March 17, 2012, 11:41am

BPMs not copied to fresh Vantage install.....

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "b_ordway" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> It's working on a backup, that is strange. Would running a backup/restore fix any errors? Are you progress? Have you tried rebuilding indexes on the live database.
>
> Also I've seen job records get into "state" where they don't update correctly. I've been able to clear some of these by toggling field values. Maybe the same thing can happen with parts? Can you try changing a few like nonstock, qty bearing, etc...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, jdaniel1127@ wrote:
> >
> > What makes it even more strange is that backed up our database, installed progress and vantage on another server, restored the database backup and that one let's me change it and it stays changed????
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Driggers" <waffqle@>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:09:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance
> >
> > We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
> > just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> > > I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> > > That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 8.03.408B on Progress
> > > >
> > > > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> > > and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> > > cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> > > sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> > > first to allow this??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ã‚Â
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *John Driggers*
> > *High End Dev, System Design, Profit Drinking*
> > *
> > **:: 904.404.9233*
> > *:: waffqle@*
> > *:: NO FAXES*
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: Ã‚Â You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Ã‚Â
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

system · March 17, 2012, 4:29pm

ok, let me look at that and see if there is a BPM someplace setting it. I haven't dealt with those yet. Have been focused on BAQ's, Dashboards and Crystal reports...

----- Original Message -----
From: "bw2868bond" <bwalker@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:40:51 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance

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BPMs not copied to fresh Vantage install.....

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com , "b_ordway" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> It's working on a backup, that is strange. Would running a backup/restore fix any errors? Are you progress? Have you tried rebuilding indexes on the live database.
>
> Also I've seen job records get into "state" where they don't update correctly. I've been able to clear some of these by toggling field values. Maybe the same thing can happen with parts? Can you try changing a few like nonstock, qty bearing, etc...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com , jdaniel1127@ wrote:
> >
> > What makes it even more strange is that backed up our database, installed progress and vantage on another server, restored the database backup and that one let's me change it and it stays changed????
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Driggers" <waffqle@>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:09:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: Part Maintenance
> >
> > We ran into this in 8. It's been a few years, but I believe we ended up
> > just writing a bit of 4gl to go update them.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:26 AM, b_ordway <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > >as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg??
> > > I wonder if you have a form customization or BPM in place?
> > > That doesn't sound like default behavior to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com , "jamesd" <jdaniel1127@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 8.03.408B on Progress
> > > >
> > > > We want to change parts from avg cost to std cost. If I zero out the qty
> > > and try to go int part maintenance and change it from avg to std in the
> > > cost field as soon as I tab out of the field it changes back to avg?? not
> > > sure what would cause that? is there something else that needs changed
> > > first to allow this??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ã‚Â
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *John Driggers*
> > *High End Dev, System Design, Profit Drinking*
> > *
> > **:: 904.404.9233*
> > *:: waffqle@*
> > *:: NO FAXES*
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: Ã‚Â You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. Ã‚Â
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo ! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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