Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON Topic)

I can see the point if you use this item in large quantities and often, but
what if you have an item (like Loctite as an example) that you purchase by
the bottle, but only use small amounts at a time? We list it in the bill of
materials as a cue to the purchaser that it needs to be checked, check it
out to the job then back to stock off the job when finished. There really
is no way to estimate how much of the bottle was used on that job, so we
just use the bill of material as a flag to check the bottle in stock when
the jobs that use it come up.

Diane Rowberry
Westwood Precision

We are having a philosophical discussion here on the use of Liquid
Nitrogen.
It's used for removing flash from rubber parts, (freeze the parts solid
bang
them against each other till the bad parts break off). The impact to the
UNIT cost is tiny. There are several opinions,

1. Don't include in the bill of materials, cover as overhead or
subcomponent of burden. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do you? Do you
just let it build up in inventory and never relieive it?)

2. Include it in the bill of materials but "fudge" the Parent/Quantity so
the cost component is even smaller. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do
you? Do you just let it build up in inventory and never relieve it?)

3. Put it in as correctly as possible and let the system handle it.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH







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I'm looking for either a Crystal or RB report similar to Vantage's Stock
Status report. The catch is I need it to be able to look at prior cutoff
dates (5/31/02 for example), not just the current On Hand Quantity. (The
ones in yahoo do not have this ability).

Currently, for analysis purposes, we export it to Excel, add some other
data and then spend a whole lot of time formatting, adding formulas,
deleting unnecessary columns, etc. My goal is to add a VB form or two in
Vantage and then have Crystal or RB do all the work that we are now
doing in Excel.

Any and all help is appreciated!!
--
Marty Kuphall
Controller
Ultra Tool & Mfg., Inc.

Ph. 262-703-0455
Fx. 262-703-0468

marty.kuphall@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Kuphall [mailto:marty.kuphall@...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Stock Status Report Needed


I'm looking for either a Crystal or RB report similar to Vantage's Stock
Status report. The catch is I need it to be able to look at prior cutoff
dates (5/31/02 for example), not just the current On Hand Quantity. (The
ones in yahoo do not have this ability).

Currently, for analysis purposes, we export it to Excel, add some other
data and then spend a whole lot of time formatting, adding formulas,
deleting unnecessary columns, etc. My goal is to add a VB form or two in
Vantage and then have Crystal or RB do all the work that we are now
doing in Excel.

Any and all help is appreciated!!
--
Marty Kuphall
Controller
Ultra Tool & Mfg., Inc.

Ph. 262-703-0455
Fx. 262-703-0468

marty.kuphall@...



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We are having a philosophical discussion here on the use of Liquid Nitrogen.
It's used for removing flash from rubber parts, (freeze the parts solid bang
them against each other till the bad parts break off). The impact to the
UNIT cost is tiny. There are several opinions,

1. Don't include in the bill of materials, cover as overhead or
subcomponent of burden. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do you? Do you
just let it build up in inventory and never relieive it?)

2. Include it in the bill of materials but "fudge" the Parent/Quantity so
the cost component is even smaller. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do
you? Do you just let it build up in inventory and never relieve it?)

3. Put it in as correctly as possible and let the system handle it.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH




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Shirley,

We use a ton of liquid Nitrogen, Liguid Argon, and Hydrogen in our Furnaces.
We don't inventory the gasses. We budget the annual cost of gasses and
apply these to the burden rates of the respective work centers.

For us is a cost of doing business just like any other utility cost.

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
Topic)


We are having a philosophical discussion here on the use of Liquid Nitrogen.
It's used for removing flash from rubber parts, (freeze the parts solid bang
them against each other till the bad parts break off). The impact to the
UNIT cost is tiny. There are several opinions,

1. Don't include in the bill of materials, cover as overhead or
subcomponent of burden. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do you? Do you
just let it build up in inventory and never relieive it?)

2. Include it in the bill of materials but "fudge" the Parent/Quantity so
the cost component is even smaller. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do
you? Do you just let it build up in inventory and never relieve it?)

3. Put it in as correctly as possible and let the system handle it.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH




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Shirley,

Same here for our welding gases.

Kim Trapp
Hawk Technology Ltd


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From: Wayne Katzenberger [mailto:wkatz@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON Topic)


Shirley,

We use a ton of liquid Nitrogen, Liguid Argon, and Hydrogen in our Furnaces.
We don't inventory the gasses. We budget the annual cost of gasses and
apply these to the burden rates of the respective work centers.

For us is a cost of doing business just like any other utility cost.

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
Topic)


We are having a philosophical discussion here on the use of Liquid Nitrogen.
It's used for removing flash from rubber parts, (freeze the parts solid bang
them against each other till the bad parts break off). The impact to the
UNIT cost is tiny. There are several opinions,

1. Don't include in the bill of materials, cover as overhead or
subcomponent of burden. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do you? Do you
just let it build up in inventory and never relieive it?)

2. Include it in the bill of materials but "fudge" the Parent/Quantity so
the cost component is even smaller. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do
you? Do you just let it build up in inventory and never relieve it?)

3. Put it in as correctly as possible and let the system handle it.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH




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Thanks guys, I'm printing your responses for presentation to the group.

Shirley

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From: Kim Trapp [mailto:ktrapp@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 2:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
Topic)


Shirley,

Same here for our welding gases.

Kim Trapp
Hawk Technology Ltd


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From: Wayne Katzenberger [mailto:wkatz@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
Topic)


Shirley,

We use a ton of liquid Nitrogen, Liguid Argon, and Hydrogen in our
Furnaces.
We don't inventory the gasses. We budget the annual cost of gasses and
apply these to the burden rates of the respective work centers.

For us is a cost of doing business just like any other utility cost.

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
Topic)


We are having a philosophical discussion here on the use of Liquid
Nitrogen.
It's used for removing flash from rubber parts, (freeze the parts solid
bang
them against each other till the bad parts break off). The impact to the
UNIT cost is tiny. There are several opinions,

1. Don't include in the bill of materials, cover as overhead or
subcomponent of burden. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do you? Do you
just let it build up in inventory and never relieive it?)

2. Include it in the bill of materials but "fudge" the Parent/Quantity so
the cost component is even smaller. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do
you? Do you just let it build up in inventory and never relieve it?)

3. Put it in as correctly as possible and let the system handle it.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, OH




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Shirley,

Ditto on our liquid nitrogen, as well as our welding gasses.

Dan Maddox

At 01:25 PM 8/26/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Shirley,
>
>Same here for our welding gases.
>
>Kim Trapp
>Hawk Technology Ltd
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wayne Katzenberger [mailto:wkatz@...]
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:08 PM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
>Topic)
>
>
>Shirley,
>
>We use a ton of liquid Nitrogen, Liguid Argon, and Hydrogen in our Furnaces.
>We don't inventory the gasses. We budget the annual cost of gasses and
>apply these to the burden rates of the respective work centers.
>
>For us is a cost of doing business just like any other utility cost.
>
>Wayne
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:09 PM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Vantage] Philosophical Question On Nitrogen. (Yes this is ON
>Topic)
>
>
>We are having a philosophical discussion here on the use of Liquid Nitrogen.
>It's used for removing flash from rubber parts, (freeze the parts solid bang
>them against each other till the bad parts break off). The impact to the
>UNIT cost is tiny. There are several opinions,
>
>1. Don't include in the bill of materials, cover as overhead or
>subcomponent of burden. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do you? Do you
>just let it build up in inventory and never relieive it?)
>
>2. Include it in the bill of materials but "fudge" the Parent/Quantity so
>the cost component is even smaller. (How do you relieve Inventory, or do
>you? Do you just let it build up in inventory and never relieve it?)
>
>3. Put it in as correctly as possible and let the system handle it.
>
>Shirley Graver
>Systems Administrator
>Rubber Associates Inc.
>Cleveland/Akron, OH
>
>
>
>
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