Hi Paul,
I use the "receipts from manufacturing" to go job to job. The other nice thing about doing it that way is you have more control over the cost when transferring. The "Issue/Unissue only lets you move at whatever the cost in the part master is set to, not the actual cost on the job. The Receipts from Manufacturing will default to the actual cost in the source job. Although you do have to be careful there also, if the lower operations are not all complete, or do not completely match the quantity in the job, it can skew the cost. In our case our sister company cuts most of our steel, they bill us by the minute, but in our jobs the subcontract operation is based on per piece, so usually the quantity billed to that operation is greater than the planned quantity. I made it part of the routine of transferring to double check the cost. The "RFM" let's you modify the cost of the assembly you are transferring. The cost problem is only an issue if the source job is going to more than one target.
Liz
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Liz,
Thank you for all the tips!!! I might of missed this but what module are
you using to move material from job-to-job? If it is the "receipts from
MFG", how? On our system the "to job" is grayed out. We can put information
in the "from job" but we are forced to move the material off the job and
into a bin location. What are your thoughts? This is driving me crazy.
Thanks Liz......
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Hi Paul,
It shows as a positive number, but it is not adding to the cost of the
job. I believe the PDR is designed to show how much a job cost to build, and
depending on the various flags you choose, you can see the related
transactions or not. Not all job transactions affect the job cost. It's
somewhat confusing if you look at the transaction history for the part you
are transferring as well, both the transaction going from the source job and
to the target job are positive numbers! I think Epicor refers to this as a
"feature, it was designed that way". If you want a clearing picture of where
the money in going, you can run the Inventory/WIP Reconciliation report, it
will show the MFG-WIP transaction as a credit.
Hope this helps!
Liz
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Do you move assemblies from job to job using the "receipts from
manufacturing? Interesting that the production detail report shows this
transaction as a positive number.
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Oh- I see what you mean now, mine is grayed out also in the WIP/Material
Movement, and we do not have the AMM either, I've always used the
"Receipts
from Manufacturing screen.
Li
z
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Hi Liz
Yes, I do see where you can move material from job to job the problem is
that my screen is grayed out specifically the assembly number and sequence
number. I can put a job number in the to box but no access to the other
two.
That is why I keep asking the question, do you have the advanced material
management module thinking that you need that for the access to be
granted.
Any Ideas??? We are using version 6.0. Thanks Liz
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Hi Paul,
That screen is only for transactions going to or from inventory. You can
use the "receipts from Manufacturing" to go directly from job to job. It's
under Materials Management --> Inventory Management --> General
Operations.
Liz
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Why is mine grayed out? Any suggestions?
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Nope.
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Hi and thanks for the help to date. Interesting I went to the
issue\return
screen started a wip to wip transaction and the to job is grayed out. DO
you
have the advanced material management module (AMM)?
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If you look at "Production Management" - "Job Management" - "Reports" -
"Work In Process"
This report would show you all the open work orders and their value.
There is a spot to put in the specific work order you would like to look
at.
To create a wip to wip is done in the same spot that you would post an
item to stock. Just instead of stock you would be posting to a job.
Does that help any?
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Please excuse my lack of understanding but what report are you using for
the
"work in progress"? Another question how are you doing a WIP-WIP
transaction? Is this the advanced material management module? Is there
any
other way for me to prove that the cost was removed from the job I am
not
sure if I have this report. Thanks in advance.
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No. It is showing what went into inventory. If you ran a work in
process report for that work order you would see the amount going to
inventory. You could also do a WIP-WIP transaction and transfer the
part directly to the other job.
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Question for the group. We needed to remove an assembly from one job and
apply it to another. So we used the receipts from MFG option, removing
the
assembly from the job placing it in our inventory then issued it to the
other job number. I am reviewing the production detail report and the
MFG-STK transaction is there but the costs are showing a positive
number,
should the cost show a negative number (-$1958.27)? We are removing the
part
from the job and applying it to inventory, logically should it be a
negative
number on the production detail report? Our accounting dept. feels that
the
cost is still on the job as well as on the receiving job. Any help would
be
welcome, thank you.
We are using vantage 6.0
Paul H. Smith
Inventory Manager
Espey MFG.
233 Ballston Ave
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
518-245-4358
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