Vantage 8.03 Performance

Dan,
Your hardware looks generally ok. A couple of suggestions, the BI
and AI process of the progress database might give your better
throughput if they were put on a drive seperate from where the
database is. Also consider an extra drive, (non raid) for page file.
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Ernst" <dernst@...> wrote:
>
> We currently have Raid10
>
>
> In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
> upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
> Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
> tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
> large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
> Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
> have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
> with the memory better.
>
>
>
> The server basic specs are as follows:
>
>
> HP DL
> 3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
> 8 GB Ram fully buffered
> Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
> x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
> x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
> 2003 Enterprise x64
> Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Gerard Wadman" <gwadman@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
> server
> > should be good to go.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Dan Ernst
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
> >
> >
> >
> > How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> > We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> > terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
> 4GB
> > of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
> lots
> > of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
> time.
> > 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> > only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> > another server to replace the current one we are using.
> > How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan Ernst
> > Correct Craft, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and 4GB
of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and lots
of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a time.
6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
another server to replace the current one we are using.
How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?


Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.
The issue is probably on your workstations. 3.0's with 2gig of ram
should do you. Make sure you take advantage of memory caching.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Ernst
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance



How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and 4GB
of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and lots
of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a time.
6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
another server to replace the current one we are using.
How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I am monitoring the performance monitor on the server and see memory
at 100%, physicaldisk at 100% and processor at 70 to 100%. Its not
always that high but seems at least half the day today it has been.

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Paul V. Blais" <pblais@...> wrote:
>
> The issue is probably on your workstations. 3.0's with 2gig of ram
> should do you. Make sure you take advantage of memory caching.
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
If all you have is Vantage on a server and it's running dual 3.4's and 4
gig you must have an appserver locked or something. We upgraded our
server to dual 3.0's and 4 gig and have been very please with
performance after tweaking the database.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Ernst
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



I am monitoring the performance monitor on the server and see memory
at 100%, physicaldisk at 100% and processor at 70 to 100%. Its not
always that high but seems at least half the day today it has been.

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Paul V. Blais" <pblais@...> wrote:
>
> The issue is probably on your workstations. 3.0's with 2gig of ram
> should do you. Make sure you take advantage of memory caching.
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Dan,



These statistics seem wildly out of the ordinary for a system of your
reported configuration running only the Vantage server side processes. Have
you done the customary server side optimizations above the standard
configuration? If not, perhaps there would be much to be gained by
optimizing the configuration on your server.



Best regards,



Michael



Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/




From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dan Ernst
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



I am monitoring the performance monitor on the server and see memory
at 100%, physicaldisk at 100% and processor at 70 to 100%. Its not
always that high but seems at least half the day today it has been.

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Paul V.
Blais" <pblais@...> wrote:
>
> The issue is probably on your workstations. 3.0's with 2gig of ram
> should do you. Make sure you take advantage of memory caching.
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your server
should be good to go.



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Ernst
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance



How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and 4GB
of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and lots
of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a time.
6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
another server to replace the current one we are using.
How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We currently have Raid10


In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
with the memory better.



The server basic specs are as follows:


HP DL
3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
8 GB Ram fully buffered
Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
2003 Enterprise x64
Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies


Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Gerard Wadman" <gwadman@...> wrote:
>
> What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
server
> should be good to go.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Dan,



I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the number of
users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming that the
server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save some money
by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if your
implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from running the
BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of course, other
performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have your
consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the performance
bottleneck?



Best regards,



Michael



Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/




From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dan Ernst
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



We currently have Raid10


In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
with the memory better.

The server basic specs are as follows:

HP DL
3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
8 GB Ram fully buffered
Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
2003 Enterprise x64
Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
Wadman" <gwadman@...> wrote:
>
> What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
server
> should be good to go.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We currently are licensed for 30 users but we don't have more than 20
logged in at once. Our database is at least 14GB in size. The only
thing this server is used for is Vantage. We have 6.1 installed on it
but the Admin Service for Progress has been stopped since we went
live on 8.03 last Monday. We have gone over the documents Epicor sent
Progress Performance Tuning Guide and Top 6 Things to Check. I even
had a webex session with Epicor when we went live to check the
database and app server settings because of the performance.

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Barry" <mbarry@...> wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
>
>
> I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the
number of
> users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming
that the
> server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save
some money
> by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if
your
> implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from
running the
> BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of
course, other
> performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
> configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have
your
> consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the
performance
> bottleneck?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Dan Ernst
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> We currently have Raid10
>
>
> In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
> upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the
problem.
> Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
> tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with
a
> large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
> Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure
company
> have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
> with the memory better.
>
> The server basic specs are as follows:
>
> HP DL
> 3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
> 8 GB Ram fully buffered
> Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
> x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
> x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
> 2003 Enterprise x64
> Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
> Wadman" <gwadman@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
> server
> > should be good to go.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Dan Ernst
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
> >
> >
> >
> > How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> > We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance
is
> > terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor
and
> 4GB
> > of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace
and
> lots
> > of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
> time.
> > 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is
the
> > only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> > another server to replace the current one we are using.
> > How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan Ernst
> > Correct Craft, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
There are a couple good Progress tuning guides that might be of use.

Grab the first two documents at the top of this page:
http://www.peg.com/techpapers/

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three, Inc. -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338 or 866-550-2323 www.xxiii.com
Dan,



We're still on 8.00.811 but we're close to your size for users/DB go.
Please keep this list informed of your experiences with performance on that
hardware. Are you running Vantage on MSSQL or Progress?



Randy Stulce





_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dan Ernst
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



We currently are licensed for 30 users but we don't have more than 20
logged in at once. Our database is at least 14GB in size. The only
thing this server is used for is Vantage. We have 6.1 installed on it
but the Admin Service for Progress has been stopped since we went
live on 8.03 last Monday. We have gone over the documents Epicor sent
Progress Performance Tuning Guide and Top 6 Things to Check. I even
had a webex session with Epicor when we went live to check the
database and app server settings because of the performance.

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Michael
Barry" <mbarry@...> wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
>
>
> I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the
number of
> users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming
that the
> server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save
some money
> by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if
your
> implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from
running the
> BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of
course, other
> performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
> configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have
your
> consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the
performance
> bottleneck?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia <http://www.aspacia.com/> com/> http://www.aspacia
<http://www.aspacia.com/> com/
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
> Dan Ernst
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> We currently have Raid10
>
>
> In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
> upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the
problem.
> Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
> tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with
a
> large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
> Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure
company
> have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
> with the memory better.
>
> The server basic specs are as follows:
>
> HP DL
> 3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
> 8 GB Ram fully buffered
> Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
> x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
> x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
> 2003 Enterprise x64
> Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
> Wadman" <gwadman@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
> server
> > should be good to go.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Dan Ernst
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
> >
> >
> >
> > How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> > We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance
is
> > terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor
and
> 4GB
> > of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace
and
> lots
> > of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
> time.
> > 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is
the
> > only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> > another server to replace the current one we are using.
> > How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan Ernst
> > Correct Craft, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Dan,

What performance issues are you seeing?

What actions / operations are slow?

Has Perfmon been utilized to monitor disk, memory, CPU etc

Antivirus?

Has Promon been used to investigate issues.

Are you on SQL or a Progress database? If progress has table analysis
been done to look at scatter / fragmentation

How fast does the client run on the server - eliminating
network / client speed

What is the specification of client machines



Regarding the Hardware specification you listed, initial
comments are:



Why 2003 64bit Enterprise? Standard 64 bit handles your
requirements? you don't require support for 2TB of RAM or 8 way
symmetric processing?



With a 14GB database the disk subsystem will need to be
correctly configured, I agree with Michaels comments below separate the
BI files and the database.

Also Vantage 8 . 8.03 likes writing to the working
directories as well as the printing directories so always factor to
isolate these from the DB.

Lots of smaller disks are always better than many large
disks, also look at a split backplane and or multiple RAID controllers
if Disk IO is really the bottleneck.

Finally as Michael mentions all these things are
dependant on further analysis.



Regards,

Stephen Edginton





From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Barry
Sent: 26 March 2007 17:07
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



Dan,

I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the number
of
users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming that
the
server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save some
money
by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if your
implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from running
the
BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of course,
other
performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have your
consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the
performance
bottleneck?

Best regards,

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Dan Ernst
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance

We currently have Raid10

In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
with the memory better.

The server basic specs are as follows:

HP DL
3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
8 GB Ram fully buffered
Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
2003 Enterprise x64
Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
Wadman" <gwadman@...> wrote:
>
> What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
server
> should be good to go.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Dan,



Stephen's points are well taken in that, from the information provided,
there appear to be many avenues to explore to conclusively diagnose and cure
your performance issues.



One item I neglected to inquire about and could, perhaps, explain the size
of your DB as a ratio of the number of users is whether or not you are
utilizing after image journaling? If so, then there are another set of IO
considerations to address.



Best regards,



Michael



Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/




From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Stephen Edginton
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



Dan,

What performance issues are you seeing?

What actions / operations are slow?

Has Perfmon been utilized to monitor disk, memory, CPU etc

Antivirus?

Has Promon been used to investigate issues.

Are you on SQL or a Progress database? If progress has table analysis
been done to look at scatter / fragmentation

How fast does the client run on the server - eliminating
network / client speed

What is the specification of client machines

Regarding the Hardware specification you listed, initial
comments are:

Why 2003 64bit Enterprise? Standard 64 bit handles your
requirements? you don't require support for 2TB of RAM or 8 way
symmetric processing?

With a 14GB database the disk subsystem will need to be
correctly configured, I agree with Michaels comments below separate the
BI files and the database.

Also Vantage 8 . 8.03 likes writing to the working
directories as well as the printing directories so always factor to
isolate these from the DB.

Lots of smaller disks are always better than many large
disks, also look at a split backplane and or multiple RAID controllers
if Disk IO is really the bottleneck.

Finally as Michael mentions all these things are
dependant on further analysis.

Regards,

Stephen Edginton

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Michael Barry
Sent: 26 March 2007 17:07
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance

Dan,

I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the number
of
users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming that
the
server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save some
money
by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if your
implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from running
the
BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of course,
other
performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have your
consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the
performance
bottleneck?

Best regards,

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Dan Ernst
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance

We currently have Raid10

In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
with the memory better.

The server basic specs are as follows:

HP DL
3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
8 GB Ram fully buffered
Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
2003 Enterprise x64
Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
Wadman" <gwadman@...> wrote:
>
> What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
server
> should be good to go.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Good points all around Micheal and Stephen, are either of you on Vantage 8
or 8.03? If so, what performance issues (if any) have you seen and were
you able to solve them?



Randy Stulce





_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Barry
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance



Dan,

Stephen's points are well taken in that, from the information provided,
there appear to be many avenues to explore to conclusively diagnose and cure
your performance issues.

One item I neglected to inquire about and could, perhaps, explain the size
of your DB as a ratio of the number of users is whether or not you are
utilizing after image journaling? If so, then there are another set of IO
considerations to address.

Best regards,

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia <http://www.aspacia.com/> com/> http://www.aspacia
<http://www.aspacia.com/> com/

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Stephen Edginton
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance

Dan,

What performance issues are you seeing?

What actions / operations are slow?

Has Perfmon been utilized to monitor disk, memory, CPU etc

Antivirus?

Has Promon been used to investigate issues.

Are you on SQL or a Progress database? If progress has table analysis
been done to look at scatter / fragmentation

How fast does the client run on the server - eliminating
network / client speed

What is the specification of client machines

Regarding the Hardware specification you listed, initial
comments are:

Why 2003 64bit Enterprise? Standard 64 bit handles your
requirements? you don't require support for 2TB of RAM or 8 way
symmetric processing?

With a 14GB database the disk subsystem will need to be
correctly configured, I agree with Michaels comments below separate the
BI files and the database.

Also Vantage 8 . 8.03 likes writing to the working
directories as well as the printing directories so always factor to
isolate these from the DB.

Lots of smaller disks are always better than many large
disks, also look at a split backplane and or multiple RAID controllers
if Disk IO is really the bottleneck.

Finally as Michael mentions all these things are
dependant on further analysis.

Regards,

Stephen Edginton

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Michael Barry
Sent: 26 March 2007 17:07
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance

Dan,

I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the number
of
users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming that
the
server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save some
money
by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if your
implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from running
the
BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of course,
other
performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have your
consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the
performance
bottleneck?

Best regards,

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia <http://www.aspacia.com/> com/> http://www.aspacia
<http://www.aspacia.com/> com/

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Dan Ernst
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance

We currently have Raid10

In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
with the memory better.

The server basic specs are as follows:

HP DL
3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
8 GB Ram fully buffered
Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
2003 Enterprise x64
Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies

Thanks

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
Wadman" <gwadman@...> wrote:
>
> What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
server
> should be good to go.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Ernst
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
4GB
> of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
lots
> of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
time.
> 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> another server to replace the current one we are using.
> How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I have been utilizing Perfmon. Memory and disk alot of the time are
up at 100% and processor stays around 20 to 40%.
There is no antivirus running on that server and I am not sure how to
use promon to investigate. If you can shed some light as to what I
should be looking for with promon. Our database is 14gb with 30 users

Thanks
Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Edginton" <stephene@...>
wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> What performance issues are you seeing?
>
> What actions / operations are slow?
>
> Has Perfmon been utilized to monitor disk, memory, CPU etc
>
> Antivirus?
>
> Has Promon been used to investigate issues.
>
> Are you on SQL or a Progress database? If progress has table
analysis
> been done to look at scatter / fragmentation
>
> How fast does the client run on the server -
eliminating
> network / client speed
>
> What is the specification of client machines
>
>
>
> Regarding the Hardware specification you listed,
initial
> comments are:
>
>
>
> Why 2003 64bit Enterprise? Standard 64 bit handles
your
> requirements? you don't require support for 2TB of RAM or 8 way
> symmetric processing?
>
>
>
> With a 14GB database the disk subsystem will need
to be
> correctly configured, I agree with Michaels comments below separate
the
> BI files and the database.
>
> Also Vantage 8 . 8.03 likes writing to the working
> directories as well as the printing directories so always factor to
> isolate these from the DB.
>
> Lots of smaller disks are always better than many
large
> disks, also look at a split backplane and or multiple RAID
controllers
> if Disk IO is really the bottleneck.
>
> Finally as Michael mentions all these things are
> dependant on further analysis.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stephen Edginton
>
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Barry
> Sent: 26 March 2007 17:07
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
>
>
> Dan,
>
> I would preface my comments with the caveat that I don't know the
number
> of
> users nor the size of your database. That being the case, assuming
that
> the
> server is dedicated to Progress/Vantage, you may be able to save
some
> money
> by reducing the size of your database raid array. Additionally, if
your
> implementation is highly transactional, you could benefit from
running
> the
> BI on a separate disk subsystem. Beyond that, there are, of course,
> other
> performance enhancing options but without knowing more about your
> configuration I would hesitate to suggest them. For example, have
your
> consultants and Epicor been able to document the source of the
> performance
> bottleneck?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> Dan Ernst
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:25 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.03 Performance
>
> We currently have Raid10
>
> In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
> upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the
problem.
> Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
> tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with
a
> large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
> Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure
company
> have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
> with the memory better.
>
> The server basic specs are as follows:
>
> HP DL
> 3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
> 8 GB Ram fully buffered
> Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
> x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
> x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
> 2003 Enterprise x64
> Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gerard
> Wadman" <gwadman@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
> server
> > should be good to go.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Dan Ernst
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
> >
> >
> >
> > How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> > We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance
is
> > terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor
and
> 4GB
> > of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace
and
> lots
> > of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
> time.
> > 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is
the
> > only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> > another server to replace the current one we are using.
> > How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan Ernst
> > Correct Craft, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Dan,
Your hardware looks generally ok. A couple of suggestions, the BI
and AI process of the progress database might give your better
throughput if they were put on a drive seperate from where the
database is. Also consider an extra drive, (non raid) for page file.
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Ernst" <dernst@...> wrote:
>
> We currently have Raid10
>
>
> In an effort to alleviate our serious performance issues since
> upgrading to 8.03, we have decided to throw hardware at the problem.
> Does anyone have any recommendations beyond the standard memory
> tuning and Progress settings that Epicor provides for servers with a
> large amount of memory and a very fast disk subsystem? Epicor, and
> Performance Network Solutions our third party infrastructure company
> have both approved using windows 2003 x64 Enterprise to help cope
> with the memory better.
>
>
>
> The server basic specs are as follows:
>
>
> HP DL
> 3.0 Ghz Dual CPU, with Dual Cores (4 cores total)
> 8 GB Ram fully buffered
> Battery Backed up Write Cache with advanced RAID caching
> x2 72GB RAID1 for the operating system SAS hot-swap
> x6 146GB RAID10 for the Databases SAS hot-swap
> 2003 Enterprise x64
> Redundant Fan kit, Redundant Power supplies
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Ernst
> Correct Craft, Inc.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Gerard Wadman" <gwadman@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the drive array config? If it is not RAID 5, then your
> server
> > should be good to go.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Dan Ernst
> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:31 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03 Performance
> >
> >
> >
> > How many people are having performance issues with Vantage 8.03?
> > We just went live Monday, upgraded from 6.1 and the performance is
> > terrible. We are using a Dell server with dual 3.4GHz processor and
> 4GB
> > of ram. This new version has our users moving at a snails pace and
> lots
> > of angry workers now. We are only having maybe 20 users in at a
> time.
> > 6.1 ran great on this server, we have turned off 6.1 so 8.03 is the
> > only thing running on that server. We are now looking at getting
> > another server to replace the current one we are using.
> > How many people had to upgrade their server to handle 8.03?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan Ernst
> > Correct Craft, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>