AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

I have been seriously considering this for the past year.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Maybe it's time to switch to something more cost effective (VoloView), or
else export/print everything to PDF and use that.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Winter, Patrick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Initially our engineering file folders consist of AutoCAD drawings (.dwg),
tif files which are old drawings done by hand scanned in and customer
drawings scanned in, plus Word Perfect documents or Word Documents.
AutoVue
lets you go forward thru all of them one by one viewing them, plus you can
select several at once and batch print, bump up the minimum pen thickness
before printing. I think there were some other things it did, also keep in
mind we purchased this before products like Volo View existed.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Can't you use some of the free viewers out there? What do you need to see
with AutoView?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Winter, Patrick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I would like to correct my previous message, I have just read my GRANT
OF
LICENSE from Cimmetry Systems, INC and it states that I must purchase a
separate software license for each user who can execute or otherwise use
the
Software Product. Well there goes part of my budget for this year.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I was told by my Cimmetry Systems sales person that one third of the
total
number of users that had AutoVue install on their systems was the
minimum
total number of licenses you should have for AutoVue. If you have a 60
user
license for Vantage, you should have at least a 20 user license for
AutoVue.
If you want to stay current with AutoVue register your serial numbers
for
the software with Cimmetry Systems. Epicor is just a VAR and does not
forward this to Cimmetry that I can detect. Cimmetry will send you
patches
free for the first year and you can go get a annual support agreement
from
Cimmetry as well. If you are serious about using AutoVue, and do the
above,
I would also recommend installing it outside of the "epic" folders and
upgrade it independently of Vantage.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have
a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive.
When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it
will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating
license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people
to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to
use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on
which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference
period
is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network,
it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the
application.
I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short
cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered
pirating?
I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't
access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought
two
AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




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I suppose now that 5.2 is out (or coming) Epicor doesn't require a request
for 5.1 anymore. I just got the 5.1 disks. Haven't even been able to get to
5.0 yet.

Also got a seperate CD with an Autovue update. I am assuming I can use this
prior to doing the Vantage upgrades since it is seperate software? Is this
correct? I would like to try the solid model features. I already upgraded
Autovue once from the 5.0 Vantage CDs any Vantage impact.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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I was researching Autovue as well as other CAD/CAM/CATIA viewers and found
out something interesting that Epicor didn't share with us.

According to Autovue and confirmed after several conversations with our
Sales Rep at Epicor, when you install Autovue you must set your network
security on the Autovue directory to block out any users who don't have
licenses.

We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as having
access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing violation.
If we purchase 5 solid model licenses then we are required to install a 2nd
Autovue directory.

Thought that I would share.

Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:02 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] 5.1 CDs


I suppose now that 5.2 is out (or coming) Epicor doesn't require a request
for 5.1 anymore. I just got the 5.1 disks. Haven't even been able to get to
5.0 yet.

Also got a seperate CD with an Autovue update. I am assuming I can use this
prior to doing the Vantage upgrades since it is seperate software? Is this
correct? I would like to try the solid model features. I already upgraded
Autovue once from the 5.0 Vantage CDs any Vantage impact.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne
Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application. I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating? I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




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We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive. When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference period is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application. I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating? I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




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This is the feedback I got from our Rep at Epicor. This is a copy of the
e-mail he sent me.




Jeremy, I checked out OEM agreement with Autovue. It appears that if you
want to be compliant, you need to purchase an Autovue license for every
person on the network who has the ability to launch an Autovue license.

Michael Holton
e p i c o r S o f t w a r e
Customer Account Manager
eManufacturing Division
(800)638-3208 Ext. 5242
Fax (952)582-5484
www.epicor.com <http://www.epicor.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application. I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating? I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




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I was told by my Cimmetry Systems sales person that one third of the total
number of users that had AutoVue install on their systems was the minimum
total number of licenses you should have for AutoVue. If you have a 60 user
license for Vantage, you should have at least a 20 user license for AutoVue.
If you want to stay current with AutoVue register your serial numbers for
the software with Cimmetry Systems. Epicor is just a VAR and does not
forward this to Cimmetry that I can detect. Cimmetry will send you patches
free for the first year and you can go get a annual support agreement from
Cimmetry as well. If you are serious about using AutoVue, and do the above,
I would also recommend installing it outside of the "epic" folders and
upgrade it independently of Vantage.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive. When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference period is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application. I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating? I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




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I would like to correct my previous message, I have just read my GRANT OF
LICENSE from Cimmetry Systems, INC and it states that I must purchase a
separate software license for each user who can execute or otherwise use the
Software Product. Well there goes part of my budget for this year.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I was told by my Cimmetry Systems sales person that one third of the total
number of users that had AutoVue install on their systems was the minimum
total number of licenses you should have for AutoVue. If you have a 60 user
license for Vantage, you should have at least a 20 user license for AutoVue.
If you want to stay current with AutoVue register your serial numbers for
the software with Cimmetry Systems. Epicor is just a VAR and does not
forward this to Cimmetry that I can detect. Cimmetry will send you patches
free for the first year and you can go get a annual support agreement from
Cimmetry as well. If you are serious about using AutoVue, and do the above,
I would also recommend installing it outside of the "epic" folders and
upgrade it independently of Vantage.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive. When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference period is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application. I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating? I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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Can't you use some of the free viewers out there? What do you need to see with AutoView?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Winter, Patrick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I would like to correct my previous message, I have just read my GRANT OF
LICENSE from Cimmetry Systems, INC and it states that I must purchase a
separate software license for each user who can execute or otherwise use the
Software Product. Well there goes part of my budget for this year.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I was told by my Cimmetry Systems sales person that one third of the total
number of users that had AutoVue install on their systems was the minimum
total number of licenses you should have for AutoVue. If you have a 60 user
license for Vantage, you should have at least a 20 user license for AutoVue.
If you want to stay current with AutoVue register your serial numbers for
the software with Cimmetry Systems. Epicor is just a VAR and does not
forward this to Cimmetry that I can detect. Cimmetry will send you patches
free for the first year and you can go get a annual support agreement from
Cimmetry as well. If you are serious about using AutoVue, and do the above,
I would also recommend installing it outside of the "epic" folders and
upgrade it independently of Vantage.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive. When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference period is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application. I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating? I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Initially our engineering file folders consist of AutoCAD drawings (.dwg),
tif files which are old drawings done by hand scanned in and customer
drawings scanned in, plus Word Perfect documents or Word Documents. AutoVue
lets you go forward thru all of them one by one viewing them, plus you can
select several at once and batch print, bump up the minimum pen thickness
before printing. I think there were some other things it did, also keep in
mind we purchased this before products like Volo View existed.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Can't you use some of the free viewers out there? What do you need to see
with AutoView?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Winter, Patrick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I would like to correct my previous message, I have just read my GRANT OF
LICENSE from Cimmetry Systems, INC and it states that I must purchase a
separate software license for each user who can execute or otherwise use
the
Software Product. Well there goes part of my budget for this year.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I was told by my Cimmetry Systems sales person that one third of the total
number of users that had AutoVue install on their systems was the minimum
total number of licenses you should have for AutoVue. If you have a 60
user
license for Vantage, you should have at least a 20 user license for
AutoVue.
If you want to stay current with AutoVue register your serial numbers for
the software with Cimmetry Systems. Epicor is just a VAR and does not
forward this to Cimmetry that I can detect. Cimmetry will send you patches
free for the first year and you can go get a annual support agreement from
Cimmetry as well. If you are serious about using AutoVue, and do the
above,
I would also recommend installing it outside of the "epic" folders and
upgrade it independently of Vantage.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive.
When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to
use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference period
is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application.
I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short
cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating?
I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't
access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two
AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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Maybe it's time to switch to something more cost effective (VoloView), or else export/print everything to PDF and use that.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Winter, Patrick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Initially our engineering file folders consist of AutoCAD drawings (.dwg),
tif files which are old drawings done by hand scanned in and customer
drawings scanned in, plus Word Perfect documents or Word Documents. AutoVue
lets you go forward thru all of them one by one viewing them, plus you can
select several at once and batch print, bump up the minimum pen thickness
before printing. I think there were some other things it did, also keep in
mind we purchased this before products like Volo View existed.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Can't you use some of the free viewers out there? What do you need to see
with AutoView?

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Winter, Patrick
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I would like to correct my previous message, I have just read my GRANT OF
LICENSE from Cimmetry Systems, INC and it states that I must purchase a
separate software license for each user who can execute or otherwise use
the
Software Product. Well there goes part of my budget for this year.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


I was told by my Cimmetry Systems sales person that one third of the total
number of users that had AutoVue install on their systems was the minimum
total number of licenses you should have for AutoVue. If you have a 60
user
license for Vantage, you should have at least a 20 user license for
AutoVue.
If you want to stay current with AutoVue register your serial numbers for
the software with Cimmetry Systems. Epicor is just a VAR and does not
forward this to Cimmetry that I can detect. Cimmetry will send you patches
free for the first year and you can go get a annual support agreement from
Cimmetry as well. If you are serious about using AutoVue, and do the
above,
I would also recommend installing it outside of the "epic" folders and
upgrade it independently of Vantage.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Lipham [mailto:pml@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


We don't use Autoview that much and only have a 5 user license. I have a
shortcut on most desktops to the avwin.exe... something like
\\servername\av\avwin\avwin.exe this keeps you from mapping a drive.
When
five people are using it and you try and pull up something it gives a
message that all the licenses are taken up. When someone gets out it will
let you pull it up. Why would AV have this setup for a "floating license"
and then tell someone that they can only map a certain number of people to
it.

In their "Grant of License" section of the End-User license agreement it
states. "This license agreement grants to you, the licensee, a right to
use
the software in the manner described herein and constitutes a floating
license assigned to ACTIVE USERS....

In the Definitions section it states.... An Active user is a user on which
the software is in use during the Reference Period. The reference period
is
any 24 hour period.

FYI
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt


Wayne, my understanding is that when you install this on the Network, it
will only allow up to 10 people at any one time access the application.
I
don't install autoview on the local machine, but rather create a short
cut
to a mapped drive. Is this not correct or is this considered pirating?
I
would love to know, as I am in the middle of ensuring that we are
utilizing
legal copies of all software.

Bob Goss
BC Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AutoVue licensing & Doc Mgt

At 07:45 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We purchased 10 user lic for Autovue. Only 10 people can be set as
having
>access to the Autovue directory. Even if our other 75 users don't
access
>Autovue or have it installed on their PC, it is still a licensing
violation.

Fascinating. So how does all this show up on our paperwork with
Epicor? IIRC, our's listed the Document Management Module, which I
thought
included AutoVue. Then there was another line item for something like
"Document Management Pro - 2 Users" Does that mean we only bought two
AV
seats? Haven't used either yet, but it would be nice to know.

-Wayne




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



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