Great advise!
Thanks,
Jasper
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Yes.
I won't purchase software if maintenance is going to be calculated on list
price.
You'd be surprised at how many companies will give you this concession
BEFORE you buy their products. Once you own it they've got you and there
isn't much you can do.
Still, I wouldn't give up this battle easily. I've seen cases where 15%
turns into 30-40% of price paid. Hard to explain to your boss/owner when it
happens.
Always put software vendors in a competitive bidding situation. Two
companies, two products that will get the job done for you. Then see which
company is willing to give you this concession. If one company does - the
other HAS to if they want the sale. And since most software companies
aren't exactly swimming in profits these days most are willing to do
whatever they have to to get a sale. The cost of producing a copy of
software for you ( a few cd's ) is an incredibly small percentage of selling
price.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:21 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Have you every been able to get the maintenance cost reflect the actual
purchase price? I know that was a big issue for use on our last module
purchase.
Thanks,
Jasper
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Also ask if the price they charge you for the license will be the same as
the base point for maintenance.
As in, list price for a license is, say $ 1000/e but today they are willing
to discount it to you for $ 500/e because you're such a great guy.
Will that 15% maintenance be calculated on $ 1000 or $ 500?
You might also request an addendum that states that the %-maint will for
these licenses will be based on price paid not suggested retail price.
Todd Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: pjw@... [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Check with you account rep but I think $500 is a ball park.
Also look into the impact it will have on your yearly service agreement.
(users X retail price x .15)
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:35 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Good Morning all,
I'm trying to get the approval of using Data Collection stations in our
facility. Does anybody have a general idea of what a single Data Collection
user license is? I'm just trying to get an estimate for the years budget.
Thanks,
Jasper
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From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Yes.
I won't purchase software if maintenance is going to be calculated on list
price.
You'd be surprised at how many companies will give you this concession
BEFORE you buy their products. Once you own it they've got you and there
isn't much you can do.
Still, I wouldn't give up this battle easily. I've seen cases where 15%
turns into 30-40% of price paid. Hard to explain to your boss/owner when it
happens.
Always put software vendors in a competitive bidding situation. Two
companies, two products that will get the job done for you. Then see which
company is willing to give you this concession. If one company does - the
other HAS to if they want the sale. And since most software companies
aren't exactly swimming in profits these days most are willing to do
whatever they have to to get a sale. The cost of producing a copy of
software for you ( a few cd's ) is an incredibly small percentage of selling
price.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:21 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Have you every been able to get the maintenance cost reflect the actual
purchase price? I know that was a big issue for use on our last module
purchase.
Thanks,
Jasper
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Also ask if the price they charge you for the license will be the same as
the base point for maintenance.
As in, list price for a license is, say $ 1000/e but today they are willing
to discount it to you for $ 500/e because you're such a great guy.
Will that 15% maintenance be calculated on $ 1000 or $ 500?
You might also request an addendum that states that the %-maint will for
these licenses will be based on price paid not suggested retail price.
Todd Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: pjw@... [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Check with you account rep but I think $500 is a ball park.
Also look into the impact it will have on your yearly service agreement.
(users X retail price x .15)
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:35 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Data Collection License
Good Morning all,
I'm trying to get the approval of using Data Collection stations in our
facility. Does anybody have a general idea of what a single Data Collection
user license is? I'm just trying to get an estimate for the years budget.
Thanks,
Jasper
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