He is talking about going from Vantage 6.1 an Epicor product to Vantage 8.03
the same product, just a version upgrade and the data doesn't work. That's a
bit different from doing a conversion from a different ERP package to
Vantage. You would expect to incure data conversion cost in that scenerio.
These guys take our 20+ grand a year for maintenance then give us a version
upgrade that basically stripps off a bunch of functionality for other added
functionality and they cant even make our data come over clean. What a
bunch of loosers.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Gerard Wadman
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
No ERP vendor will offer a conversion tool for FREE.
SAP, Great Plains, Navision, Macola, etc make many millions of dollars
every year in professional services.
I know you are a little pissed at Epicor right now, I can tell you that
I have been through three ERP deployments from three different software
vendors before Vantage and Epicor is operating within industry norms.
Do other companies have data mapping tools designed for conversions?,
Yes. Are they free?, No, and in some cases are reserved for
professional services and not available to the end user at all.
Gerard M Wadman
Sr. Network Systems Engineer
Scandius BioMedical Inc.
11A Beaver Brook Road
Littleton, MA 01460
978/486-4088 x 124
978/486-4108 (fax)
http://www.scandius <http://www.scandius.com/> .com/
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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto:
vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On Behalf
Of Larry Barriere
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion
I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.
Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.
Thank you for letting me vent off.
Larry Barriere
barriere@polyvac. <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com> com
<mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
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the same product, just a version upgrade and the data doesn't work. That's a
bit different from doing a conversion from a different ERP package to
Vantage. You would expect to incure data conversion cost in that scenerio.
These guys take our 20+ grand a year for maintenance then give us a version
upgrade that basically stripps off a bunch of functionality for other added
functionality and they cant even make our data come over clean. What a
bunch of loosers.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Gerard Wadman
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
No ERP vendor will offer a conversion tool for FREE.
SAP, Great Plains, Navision, Macola, etc make many millions of dollars
every year in professional services.
I know you are a little pissed at Epicor right now, I can tell you that
I have been through three ERP deployments from three different software
vendors before Vantage and Epicor is operating within industry norms.
Do other companies have data mapping tools designed for conversions?,
Yes. Are they free?, No, and in some cases are reserved for
professional services and not available to the end user at all.
Gerard M Wadman
Sr. Network Systems Engineer
Scandius BioMedical Inc.
11A Beaver Brook Road
Littleton, MA 01460
978/486-4088 x 124
978/486-4108 (fax)
http://www.scandius <http://www.scandius.com/> .com/
This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you
have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately
and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not
use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior
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transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own
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________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto:
vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On Behalf
Of Larry Barriere
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion
I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.
Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.
Thank you for letting me vent off.
Larry Barriere
barriere@polyvac. <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com> com
<mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
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Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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