Job Closings vs Closed

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Close the job, run the capture and you get the variances. Run the
Reconciliation and you will see the phantom transactions but they will
not post until you run the capture.

The closed jobs will no longer appear on the WIP report after the
capture because the WIP has been zeroed on the closed job.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com







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Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed






>
>I believe that closing them is when the costs are posted.
>

All costs or just the variances? I think Issues and Receipts get posted
at the next capture but you'll have "Phantom" charges on your Inv/WIP
Recon report until the jobs are closed.

Is that right accountants?

Mark W.





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This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.



If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
consequences, if any?









Vic





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I believe that closing them is when the costs are posted.


BILL R. KING
J&B Industrial Services
(806).776.4409 Office
(254).592.4397 Cell



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed



This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.

If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
consequences, if any?

Vic

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If you want to use the Sales Gross Margin when you Close a Job that when the
costs are updated into a matching Invoice Detail record. The when you run
the SGM report it reads those costs from Invoice Detail record when "Use Adj
Cost" is checked.

Also, when you search for Open jobs all those jobs will still be included in
the search.

Scott

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Bill King
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed

I believe that closing them is when the costs are posted.


BILL R. KING
J&B Industrial Services
(806).776.4409 Office
(254).592.4397 Cell



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Vic Drecchio
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed



This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.

If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
consequences, if any?

Vic

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If you complete a job why not just close...once you complete, if you
have to add more costs, they hit a variance account anyway. If you do
not want those costs to hit the variance account, do not complete it
right away,



Of course you cannot ship out the part if the job is closed. But if
that part is moved to inventory, off the job, then again it doesn't
matter.



And what Scott said is true as well. It's a pain to sort through jobs
that are "open" when in fact they are finished.



And of course if I forgot to mention something, someone will correct me!







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed





This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.

If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
consequences, if any?

Vic

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Has anyone been successful in deploying E904 using a GPO? I see the Epicor9Client.msi file in the Epicor904 share, but when I called Vantage support for version 9 they said they do not support deploying via GPO.

I just didn't want to re-invent the wheel here if anyone else had already done it.

Thanks and Happy Friday!


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Not exactly the answer to the question you asked
but we deploy the client using Thinapp in a VM
environment. There are some adjustments that
need to be made to accommodate the use of the
client C drive and crystal but it works well for us.

I know from the techies here that when we get all
of our clients moved to Windows 7 there is
another technology they are planning to use but it is still GP deployed.

If you want to talk to "da brain" let me know and I'll hook you up.

Bob Carlson
bcarlson@...




At 11:49 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Has anyone been successful in deploying E904
>using a GPO? I see the Epicor9Client.msi file in
>the Epicor904 share, but when I called Vantage
>support for version 9 they said they do not support deploying via GPO.
>
>I just didn't want to re-invent the wheel here
>if anyone else had already done it.
>
>Thanks and Happy Friday!
>
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>
>



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I don't know if the graphic below will survive the Group re-distribution.

Manasa, I will mail it to you direct.

It represents a Dashboard that looks at completed
jobs and suggest a closing date for them (Completion date + 14 days)

If you place certain characters in the JobCode
field and enter comments it will put those jobs
as jobs with errors into another grid to highlight data problems.

Tab 1 deals with jobs in which Qty produced = Qty Required.

Tab 2 deals with over production

Tab 3 is those jobs not yet completed but are Engineered & released.

If anyone wants the Dashboard/BAQ e-mail me @ bcarlson@...

[]





At 11:48 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>If you complete a job why not just close...once you complete, if you
>have to add more costs, they hit a variance account anyway. If you do
>not want those costs to hit the variance account, do not complete it
>right away,
>
>Of course you cannot ship out the part if the job is closed. But if
>that part is moved to inventory, off the job, then again it doesn't
>matter.
>
>And what Scott said is true as well. It's a pain to sort through jobs
>that are "open" when in fact they are finished.
>
>And of course if I forgot to mention something, someone will correct me!
>
>M. Manasa Reddy
>
><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>
>
>800.852.2325
>
>630.806.2000 ofc
>
>630.806.2001 fax
>
>www.weldcoa.com
>
>________________________________
>
>From:
><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of Vic Drecchio
>Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:23 AM
>To: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed
>
>This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.
>
>If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
>consequences, if any?
>
>Vic
>
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What nobody else has said, the WIP stays open. Completing a job removes
any outstanding load for operations that are not complete and material
allocations for materials that are not issued complete. Closing the job,
you can no longer post costs against it and allows the WIP to be
processed by the Capture COS/WIP Activity which clears the WIP.

Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed





This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.

If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
consequences, if any?

Vic

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My understanding is that the "Completion" action
sets up the costs related to the job to flow from
WIP to either inventory or COGS (make dir). The
costs will move when you run the Inv/WIP Reconcile utility.

If you leave a job in completed state it can
continue to accumulate costs but it is financially located in WIP.


Bob Carlson


At 10:23 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.
>
>If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
>consequences, if any?
>
>Vic
>
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>
>



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Actually, the costs move from WIP to Inventory on a Manufacturing
Receipt and from WIP to COS on a Packing slip when shipping directly
from a job.

Completing the job does nothing to WIP. Without those two business
documents, the system does not know which way to move the WIP or how
much.

Closing the job creates the Variances to the WIP when the Capture is run
and phantom transactions when the Reconciliation is run.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com







From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:35 PM



My understanding is that the "Completion" action sets up the costs
related to the job to flow from WIP to either inventory or COGS (make
dir). The costs will move when you run the Inv/WIP Reconcile utility.

If you leave a job in completed state it can continue to accumulate
costs but it is financially located in WIP.



________________________________


From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:23 AM



This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.

If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
consequences, if any?







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Yes it will accumulate until you close the job, but those costs will hit
a variance account if the complete box has been checked.



Thanks for the graphic...right now we backflush so none of this is a
real concern for me....but if I ever get this company to start to record
labor...boy will this be needed!







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Job Closings vs Closed





My understanding is that the "Completion" action
sets up the costs related to the job to flow from
WIP to either inventory or COGS (make dir). The
costs will move when you run the Inv/WIP Reconcile utility.

If you leave a job in completed state it can
continue to accumulate costs but it is financially located in WIP.

Bob Carlson

At 10:23 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>This is an open ended question, but I wanted to get some input.
>
>If we Complete the job and never "Close" them..... what could be some
>consequences, if any?
>
>Vic
>
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>
>

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Thanks Bob! I might want to see what "da brain" thinks....after I learn a bit more about the E9 installation.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor 9 Install



Not exactly the answer to the question you asked
but we deploy the client using Thinapp in a VM
environment. There are some adjustments that
need to be made to accommodate the use of the
client C drive and crystal but it works well for us.

I know from the techies here that when we get all
of our clients moved to Windows 7 there is
another technology they are planning to use but it is still GP deployed.

If you want to talk to "da brain" let me know and I'll hook you up.

Bob Carlson
bcarlson@...<mailto:bcarlson%40fillc.com>

At 11:49 AM 2/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Has anyone been successful in deploying E904
>using a GPO? I see the Epicor9Client.msi file in
>the Epicor904 share, but when I called Vantage
>support for version 9 they said they do not support deploying via GPO.
>
>I just didn't want to re-invent the wheel here
>if anyone else had already done it.
>
>Thanks and Happy Friday!
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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>
>I believe that closing them is when the costs are posted.
>

All costs or just the variances? I think Issues and Receipts get posted at the next capture but you'll have "Phantom" charges on your Inv/WIP Recon report until the jobs are closed.

Is that right accountants?

Mark W.