Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive

[system]

We got to work with Jeff as well and I just wish we had him at the beginning ... he is just wonderful! He explained allot and just helped enormously! Very Knowledgeable!!!! If you could get his help in setting up Vantage It would be totally worth whatever it takes!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Babette Welch [mailto:bwelch@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:42 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


We looked at numerous ERP/MRP packages.

And have been running Vantage for 3 years.
We are very pleased with it.
Yes, there are quirks, a few odd things but mostly we like the flexibility and stability.
We have customized the VBforms and even use vantage to track our plant/machine maintenance.

As mentioned before Report Builder is very quick and easy. We have bazillion reports in it and I hope to retire before we are required to switch totally to Crystal.
We use Crystal for all documents which go to customers or vendors. We have customized these with our logo, web address, etc.
Crystal does make a good presentation but it is more cumbersome then RB.

We also , have CorVu and are increasingly using it for quick data extraction which we previously used RB for.
The future looks very bright for this add on.

There is one MAJOR caution.
Get GOOD Advice on the set-up.
Vantage uses 'clever' ways to direct transactions to the General Ledger, like:
Classes, Groups, Departments, etc.
We needed guidance for this.

Jeff Pagano is excellent to assure a sound accounting base is set.


That's all

BW

_________________________________________
Babette Welch
IT Director
Argonics Inc
1110 Wright
Marquette MI 49855
906.226.9747



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[system]

I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.

[system]

I'm not a huge Vantage fan but I think it does all that you have mentioned very well. I'm in IT so I am more interested in the "NERDY" aspects of it. Database, front end, ect... As for Syteline, one of our sister companies purchased it two years ago and their IT Manager told me that they think its all but worthless. Have you Checked out Made2Manage? I hear lot of good things about that product as well as Navision. Then again, I have also heard that Great Plains eManufacturing package is supposed to rock.

Hope that helps.
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links

[system]

One thing about Vantage is that it does not support any sort of wireless technology yet. I say yet because it's supposed to in version 7. We have a large shop floor and we would like to have a wireless PDA that can do inventory checks, material issues, and other functions without having to go back to our desks. I've worked with other software where you can take a symbol scanner/PDA and use its software to interface with our ERP. Vantage does not interface with third party software. Our account rep even told me that to this date, he know of no company that has been able to write code that interfaces well with vantage. This is all supposed to change in version 7.

As for Progress vs. SQL. I would take SQL any day but Vantage works best on Progress. Not sure how many people us the SQL version but I hear more cons about that then pros.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Jurkaites [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:18 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or
positive


Thank you for the reply. We heard very good things about Made2Manage, but
the fact that about 6 months or so after they were acquired by another
company, their top executives were all fired scared us off a little bit. We
heard good things about the Great Plains package and that would have been
great since we already have the accounting package, but there were some key
things that it didn't do for us. In fact, after the reseller visited us,
they were actually the ones that pulled out a little and were honest about
the fact that they didn't really fit, which I had enormous respect for them
doing that. Since you mentioned you were in IT, what is your opinion about
Progress vs SQL? I am NOT an IT person, but am interested in your thoughts
about how easy/difficult it is for you to support your users. I can pass
along any of your comments to our IT person.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I'm not a huge Vantage fan but I think it does all that you have mentioned
very well. I'm in IT so I am more interested in the "NERDY" aspects of it.
Database, front end, ect... As for Syteline, one of our sister companies
purchased it two years ago and their IT Manager told me that they think its
all but worthless. Have you Checked out Made2Manage? I hear lot of good
things about that product as well as Navision. Then again, I have also
heard that Great Plains eManufacturing package is supposed to rock.

Hope that helps.
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/."http://groups.yahoo.com/group
/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages"http://groups.yahoo.com/grou
p/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v
antage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links







Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/."http://groups.yahoo.com/group
/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages"http://groups.yahoo.com/grou
p/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v
antage/links



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links

[system]

DO NOT use SQL Server with Vantage. We went that route a few years ago and it was a disaster. This has nothing to do with SQL Server. Its the way Vantage was written. If you go with Vantage then use Progress. I prefer SQL Server over Progress but there are others on this list that would disagree. I would not care what database it used if the ODBC worked as it should. There are a few issues, such as accessing a memo field with ODBC that is a real pain. The Merant (Progress) ODBC driver can not access anything over 3000 characters long. The query will bomb out. The ODBC Driver is also very slow compaired to the ODBC Drivers I am used to working with. On a positive note, Progress is cheep and reliable. It is also very fast when used with 4GL.

Made2Manage is based here in Indianapolis and I have heard the new company is dumping tons of cash into it. They also seem to be taking good care of the employees.

Hope that helps,
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Jurkaites [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:18 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or
positive


Thank you for the reply. We heard very good things about Made2Manage, but
the fact that about 6 months or so after they were acquired by another
company, their top executives were all fired scared us off a little bit. We
heard good things about the Great Plains package and that would have been
great since we already have the accounting package, but there were some key
things that it didn't do for us. In fact, after the reseller visited us,
they were actually the ones that pulled out a little and were honest about
the fact that they didn't really fit, which I had enormous respect for them
doing that. Since you mentioned you were in IT, what is your opinion about
Progress vs SQL? I am NOT an IT person, but am interested in your thoughts
about how easy/difficult it is for you to support your users. I can pass
along any of your comments to our IT person.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I'm not a huge Vantage fan but I think it does all that you have mentioned
very well. I'm in IT so I am more interested in the "NERDY" aspects of it.
Database, front end, ect... As for Syteline, one of our sister companies
purchased it two years ago and their IT Manager told me that they think its
all but worthless. Have you Checked out Made2Manage? I hear lot of good
things about that product as well as Navision. Then again, I have also
heard that Great Plains eManufacturing package is supposed to rock.

Hope that helps.
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/."http://groups.yahoo.com/group
/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages"http://groups.yahoo.com/grou
p/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v
antage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links







Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/."http://groups.yahoo.com/group
/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages"http://groups.yahoo.com/grou
p/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v
antage/links



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links

[system]

We thought about using a wireless laptop but we wanted a device that can scan barcodes and do issuing to jobs, transferring material from one warehouse to another and receiving material. This would eliminate a great deal of wasted time for us. We might end up using a wireless laptop but I'm a little weary about giving our shop personnel that type of access. We want to make it simple for them.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron LaPean [mailto:rlapean@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:37 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or
positive


This may not be the same----but I have a HP Pavilion laptop that
has a wireless communications and I use it to train others on Vantage. I
can do any and
all of the transactions in Vantage without being connected. We
have a Wireless-G 24GHz Linksys by the Server.
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:28 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


One thing about Vantage is that it does not support any sort of wireless
technology yet. I say yet because it's supposed to in version 7. We have a
large shop floor and we would like to have a wireless PDA that can do
inventory checks, material issues, and other functions without having to go
back to our desks. I've worked with other software where you can take a
symbol scanner/PDA and use its software to interface with our ERP. Vantage
does not interface with third party software. Our account rep even told me
that to this date, he know of no company that has been able to write code
that interfaces well with vantage. This is all supposed to change in
version 7.

As for Progress vs. SQL. I would take SQL any day but Vantage works best on
Progress. Not sure how many people us the SQL version but I hear more cons
about that then pros.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Jurkaites [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:18 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or
positive


Thank you for the reply. We heard very good things about Made2Manage, but
the fact that about 6 months or so after they were acquired by another
company, their top executives were all fired scared us off a little bit. We
heard good things about the Great Plains package and that would have been
great since we already have the accounting package, but there were some key
things that it didn't do for us. In fact, after the reseller visited us,
they were actually the ones that pulled out a little and were honest about
the fact that they didn't really fit, which I had enormous respect for them
doing that. Since you mentioned you were in IT, what is your opinion about
Progress vs SQL? I am NOT an IT person, but am interested in your thoughts
about how easy/difficult it is for you to support your users. I can pass
along any of your comments to our IT person.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I'm not a huge Vantage fan but I think it does all that you have mentioned
very well. I'm in IT so I am more interested in the "NERDY" aspects of it.
Database, front end, ect... As for Syteline, one of our sister companies
purchased it two years ago and their IT Manager told me that they think its
all but worthless. Have you Checked out Made2Manage? I hear lot of good
things about that product as well as Navision. Then again, I have also
heard that Great Plains eManufacturing package is supposed to rock.

Hope that helps.
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




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[system]

I think the reality is with any package, unless it is custom for you and
yours NO "boxed lunch" package will be a perfect fit. Keep in mind all of
these things are an average of opinions from both developers and users. The
issues that come up then are. "But WE don't do it that way, change the
software". The reality is with any package is some flexibility OUTSIDE the
software. Vantage is a stable platform, I have been impacted by relatively
FEW technical glitches, (fewer than windows operating systems), in the past
year I have had to call tech support a total of twice. I hate the support
fee's , but "duh!" I'd hate them with another package too. This user group
is a great big GIANT plus. I like Vantage mainly because MOST of my users
like it, they don't understand it, but they're used to it. I personally
like Vantage because it performs as advertised, mostly. Would I buy it
again, probably.

Shirley



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From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive

I'm not a huge Vantage fan but I think it does all that you have mentioned
very well. I'm in IT so I am more interested in the "NERDY" aspects of it.
Database, front end, ect... As for Syteline, one of our sister companies
purchased it two years ago and their IT Manager told me that they think its
all but worthless. Have you Checked out Made2Manage? I hear lot of good
things about that product as well as Navision. Then again, I have also
heard that Great Plains eManufacturing package is supposed to rock.

Hope that helps.
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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[system]

Vantage is my 4th MRP/ERP system at various companies and by far the best I have ever used. Unfortunately one of the biggest advantages is going away with Vantahe 7.0 (Sonoma). This is Report Builder which makes it insanely easy to quickly write reports and drag usable knowledge out of the database. Crystal Reports is a decent alternative - much more powerful but also more complicated and less "rapid". As for tracking the status of a part the using Part Advisor and linking to Job Tracker is a couple key strokes and puts you right there...assuming you are using Data Collection from the shop floor. I ended up writing a WIP report for open jobs (using Report Builder) that not only shows costs into a job but projects remaining costs to forecast if the job will make or lose money - often in time to correct issues and turn losers into winners. I like Progress a lot mainly because I don't have to do much with it. It just runs and runs with little Admin overhead. Be sure to closely look at the Sonoma release and get a detailed demo of it because it is very different from Vantage 6.1 (or current competitor products) and will bring a lot of interesting capabilities. As for customizing - I agree, avoid at all cost. Besides the provided VB Form fields and user defined fields are all we have ever needed to tweak things for this location. If you would like to call me please contact your Vantage sales rep to get ahold of me.

Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
Woodbury, MN


-----Original Message-----
From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




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[system]

Michele:
Our company went from Symix (Syteline's previous version) to Vantage. What I can tell you is that for the most part we've been happy with
Vantage. There are some things that Symix did better related to MPS scheduling and production/purchasing order requirements. We've heard that the Sonoma release has big improvements in that area. Syteline's shortcomings were in job costing/efficiencies. When we looked to upgrade to Syteline, we also were concerned that the users would be intimated by it. Vantage is alot more user friendly. Also, as Shirley said - this user
group is invaluable. The trackers are fantastic - that's what does as Patrick mentioned - finding the information you are looking for quickly. There is no comparison with Tech Support to what we had available with Symix (maybe it's changed with Syteline), but I'm very happy with Epicor's Tech Support. And as for me - I love Progress. Symix was Progress also and it is very reliable and stable.
Hope that helps!
Julie
Mercury Minnesota Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: maronprod
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:01 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
the middle of a software search to replace our current
manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
(is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.

Michele L. Jurkaites
Controller
Maron Products, Inc.




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[system]

One beef with the accounting aspect is something we discovered a short time
ago. At least on Vantage 5.2, when customer information (ex. billing
address) is changed, the info changes even on POSTED invoices. Could be
nothing for you but creates problems for us.
Some of our customers require invoices be sent to different locations
depending on what type of work was done. You can only have one billing
address at a time and that is displayed on all the invoices. There is no
easy way to determine which invoice address was used at the time of posting.

As to Progress vs. SQL, I have never heard people rave about a SQL
implementation. Progress appears to be the standard choice.


David Gartner

All opinions expressed are my own.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:02 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive
>
>
> I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
> of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
> the middle of a software search to replace our current
> manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
> Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
> accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
> software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
> Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
> Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
> problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
> me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
> Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
> an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
> were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
> This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
> comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
> we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
> about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
> software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
> sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
> hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
> in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
> (is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
> button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
> it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
> changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
> order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
> standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
> or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
> end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
> address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
> everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.
>
> Michele L. Jurkaites
> Controller
> Maron Products, Inc.
>
>

[system]

That "Feature" goes all the way back to 2.7 . Those customers with multiple
BILL TO's get a customer entry for each "Bill To" address. The Vendor
database works the same way. So I would say if you need to retain old
address history, You need to make a new customer entry. Logically I
understand why. Even history is linked through the Customer/Vendor Number
(not ID) You aren't actually saving the addresses in invoices, po's
whatever. You are PULLING the data linked to the customer/vendor number.
Change those fields, you change your history. Kind of flies in the face of
the HISTORY IS CHISELED IN STONE philosophy.

Shirley

_____

From: David Gartner [mailto:dgartner@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:05 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive

One beef with the accounting aspect is something we discovered a short time
ago. At least on Vantage 5.2, when customer information (ex. billing
address) is changed, the info changes even on POSTED invoices. Could be
nothing for you but creates problems for us.
Some of our customers require invoices be sent to different locations
depending on what type of work was done. You can only have one billing
address at a time and that is displayed on all the invoices. There is no
easy way to determine which invoice address was used at the time of posting.

As to Progress vs. SQL, I have never heard people rave about a SQL
implementation. Progress appears to be the standard choice.


David Gartner

All opinions expressed are my own.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: maronprod [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:02 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive
>
>
> I apologize in advance if the following question is out of the scope
> of this group. I am the Controller at a company that is currently in
> the middle of a software search to replace our current
> manufacturing/accounting package. We are currently using MAX from
> Exact software for ERP and Great Plains from Microsoft for
> accounting. After doing some initial research, we elected to see
> software demos for Vantage, Syteline from MAAPICS, and Lilly from
> Visual. At this point, we have narrowed it down to Vantage or
> Syteline, pending additional research and reference checks. The
> problem of course with references is the vendor isn't going to give
> me someone who isn't happy with their software. I participate in a
> Yahoo group for my current software, and have found the group to be
> an invaluable resource for me. So my question to this group: if you
> were going to purchase software today, would you purchase Vantage?
> This is a considerable investment for us, and I appreciate any
> comments you would like to throw our way. I've seen the product and
> we are visiting a current customer today, but I would love to hear
> about the things Vantage doesn't handle well. In a sense, so no
> software package will fit us perfectly, I almost feel like you
> sometimes pick the lesser of the evils, and I would therefore love to
> hear what the evils of Vantage are. I would especially be interested
> in knowing how you feel the system tracks the inventory through WIP
> (is it possible to know what stage the parts are in at the click of a
> button), how well you think the base scheduler works and how easy is
> it to use, and if the system has the capabilities to track for
> changes in orders (regardless of whether it is a customer order, shop
> order, or purchase order to a vendor). From an accounting
> standpoint, I am also interested in your opinion regarding how easy
> or difficult it is to do costing analysis and close out the month-
> end. Please feel free to respond directly to me at the above email
> address. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. I know
> everyone is busy, so I appreciate the help.
>
> Michele L. Jurkaites
> Controller
> Maron Products, Inc.
>
>

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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Michele
If you do decide on Vantage and join this list be prepared for:

Rants: On every and any subject
Laughs: On anything, Everything, when you least expect it. (ever hear the
BEAR joke?)
Help: On everything
Opinions: On everything.
Respect: From everybody .... (or else)

Don't get me wrong Vantage is the topic here but some days we just get plain
silly.

Shirley

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We do have some issues reconciling these accounts but it generally is minor amounts... for stock and finished goods it is usually pennies which I assume are rounding differences... and wip well wip is a different story.. sometimes it is good and some times not so good... never more than a few thousand dollars. and most of it occurs due to transactions for debit memos and purchasing adjustments. Labor and burden are usually minor amounts. I do print all relevant reports the last day of the month after everyone else is out of Vantage and don't let anyone close or complete any jobs until I have ran the wip reports and that seems to help a great deal.
Stephanie

-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Jurkaites [mailto:mjurkaites@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Looking for Vantage references - negative or positive


I want to thank everyone that responded to my email regarding negative
and/or positive feedback. If anyone still has input, I would love to hear
it, either in the forum or directly to me via HYPERLINK
"mailto:mjurkaites@..."mjurkaites@.... I do
have one other follow-up question specifically to you accounting people out
there...do you have any problems reconciling your stock inventory cost
report to your general ledger balance at the end of the month? And on a
related note, what about reconciling your WIP account? This has been a
MAJOR problem for us with our current system due to not all transactions
processed in the manufacturing package interfacing with our financial
package. The customer we just visited mentioned having problems reconciling
the report to the general ledger, although also said it could be related to
a timing difference. If we end up selecting Vantage and I end up still
having to spend a considerable amount of time reconciling inventory like I
do now, I know our Chairman will not be happy we spent as much money as we
are contemplating. Has anyone out there had these problems?





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We looked at numerous ERP/MRP packages.

And have been running Vantage for 3 years.
We are very pleased with it.
Yes, there are quirks, a few odd things but mostly we like the flexibility and stability.
We have customized the VBforms and even use vantage to track our plant/machine maintenance.

As mentioned before Report Builder is very quick and easy. We have bazillion reports in it and I hope to retire before we are required to switch totally to Crystal.
We use Crystal for all documents which go to customers or vendors. We have customized these with our logo, web address, etc.
Crystal does make a good presentation but it is more cumbersome then RB.

We also , have CorVu and are increasingly using it for quick data extraction which we previously used RB for.
The future looks very bright for this add on.

There is one MAJOR caution.
Get GOOD Advice on the set-up.
Vantage uses 'clever' ways to direct transactions to the General Ledger, like:
Classes, Groups, Departments, etc.
We needed guidance for this.

Jeff Pagano is excellent to assure a sound accounting base is set.


That's all

BW

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Babette Welch
IT Director
Argonics Inc
1110 Wright
Marquette MI 49855
906.226.9747