MES User Login Protocol

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1
The generic 'shop' username is simply a (Vantage CAM) recommended device to allow our 30Â MES users to share access to MES efficiently on about 10 winterminals deployed throughout the shop.
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Actual activity is reported by these users using their individual clock IDs (which, to keep things simple, are the same as their non-Vantage payroll employee IDs).
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No problems attributable to this so far other than coaching/instilling the self discipline to clock out at the end of each day (rather than logging out - which doesn't perform a simultaneous clock out).
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Rob Brown

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:

From: Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES User Login Protocol
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 2:35 PM






Have you noticed any issues using the same username for all MES
users. We had a problem a while back that Epicor did not have a
specific answer for. They attributed it to using the same login for
all MES users. We changed them, and don't have the issues anymore.
I can't say for sure that was the cause though.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Have a cold one for me Nick. I'll enjoy it through osmosis :)
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@.. .> wrote:
>
> From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@.. .>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES User Login Protocol
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:08 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wise words as always Rob, thanks... You should write a book!! ;o)
>
> We are currently using an external time management system that is
not
> part of Vantage, and I am the first to admit that we have some
real
> discipline issues to sort out in terms of operators recording
> accurately what they do. Funnily enough they are always very good
at
> recording their physical hours on site for the purposes of
payroll,
> but not so good at recording what they do when they are on
site ;o) A
> big part of our implementation is the cultural change that must
take
> place in order to run an effective MRP system. Rubbish in, rubbish
> out and all that...
>
> We closed our first jobs off today and that was not a pleasant
> experience. Problems caused by lack of procedure around the
creation
> of parts has come back to haunt us. We will do better next time I
am
> sure. At least being in the UK I can now go for a cold beer whilst
> you guys in the US keep working hard. Enjoy!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop'
> (psswrd 'shop').
> >
> > That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID numbers in
&
> IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be
prompted
> for username & password to login/clock- in. If no password
associated
> with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.
> >
> > VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them
OUT -
> so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the
> Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked- in to.
> >
> > Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day or
> your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and correct
> errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll date
> based).
> >
> > Rob Brown
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .> wrote:
> >
> > From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .>
> > Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
> Vantage
> > implementation.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be
for
> a
> > user to gain access to MES...?
> >
> > When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks
for
> > their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
> this
> > point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then
enters
> > their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> > complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand
the
> > logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within
the
> > user configuration.
> >
> > Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to
Vantage
> > and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
> > whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic
shop
> > operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
> generic
> > operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
> >
> > Any advice would be welcome...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Taylor
> >
>


















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We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing Vantage
implementation.

Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be for a
user to gain access to MES...?

When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks for
their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at this
point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then enters
their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand the
logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within the
user configuration.

Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to Vantage
and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic shop
operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the generic
operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.

Any advice would be welcome...

Thanks,

Nick Taylor
3
We have a generic user login that is not limited to the number of
sessions it can have open. In some areas of the floor, we have it
auto-login from a terminal server connection so there is no confusion.

The only shop employees we have individual user id's are the
Inventory Control Specialists and unique operators that can issue and
return material from MES (must have AMM installed). These
individuals have their own user id's so we can track "who" made the
inventory transaction; as Vantage does not write to the PartTran
table the shop employee id...it writes the user id connected to their
shop employee.

Thanks
Patty Buechler

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "nmtaylor1969" <n.taylor@...> wrote:
>
> We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
Vantage
> implementation.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be for
a
> user to gain access to MES...?
>
> When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks for
> their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
this
> point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then enters
> their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand the
> logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within the
> user configuration.
>
> Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to Vantage
> and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
> whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic shop
> operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
generic
> operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
>
> Any advice would be welcome...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Taylor
>
4
Thanks for the quick reply, that confirms which way we should look to
go...

Best regards,

Nick Taylor

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bpbuechler" <pbuechler@...> wrote:
>
> We have a generic user login that is not limited to the number of
> sessions it can have open. In some areas of the floor, we have it
> auto-login from a terminal server connection so there is no
confusion.
>
> The only shop employees we have individual user id's are the
> Inventory Control Specialists and unique operators that can issue
and
> return material from MES (must have AMM installed). These
> individuals have their own user id's so we can track "who" made the
> inventory transaction; as Vantage does not write to the PartTran
> table the shop employee id...it writes the user id connected to
their
> shop employee.
>
> Thanks
> Patty Buechler
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "nmtaylor1969" <n.taylor@> wrote:
> >
> > We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
> Vantage
> > implementation.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be
for
> a
> > user to gain access to MES...?
> >
> > When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks
for
> > their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
> this
> > point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then
enters
> > their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> > complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand
the
> > logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within the
> > user configuration.
> >
> > Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to
Vantage
> > and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
> > whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic
shop
> > operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
> generic
> > operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
> >
> > Any advice would be welcome...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Taylor
> >
>
5
Hi-



We have each of our MES terminals on the shop floor set up with a unique ID
such as sf01, sf02, etc. Once the Shop Floor PC is logged into the network,
we have MES in the startup folder and it auto login using the correct
parameter in the .config file for MES. Then each shop floor employee would
just clock in/out as normal.



Hope this helps.



Randy Duly, BSBIS, MCP, A+

IT Manager

National Tube Form, LLC

A Whipp Capital Partners Company

3405 Engle Road

Fort Wayne IN 46809

P: 260-478-2363

F: 260-478-1043

H: 260-623-3390

C: 260-402-3216

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Hi Randy,

Do you need to specify a user in the MES .config file ? Are you
perhaps logging in as Manager or did you setup a specific user for
your MES logins ?

Thanks,

Nick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Duly" <randy.duly@...> wrote:
>
> Hi-
>
>
>
> We have each of our MES terminals on the shop floor set up with a
unique ID
> such as sf01, sf02, etc. Once the Shop Floor PC is logged into the
network,
> we have MES in the startup folder and it auto login using the
correct
> parameter in the .config file for MES. Then each shop floor
employee would
> just clock in/out as normal.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Randy Duly, BSBIS, MCP, A+
>
> IT Manager
>
> National Tube Form, LLC
>
> A Whipp Capital Partners Company
>
> 3405 Engle Road
>
> Fort Wayne IN 46809
>
> P: 260-478-2363
>
> F: 260-478-1043
>
> H: 260-623-3390
>
> C: 260-402-3216
>
> Randy.duly@...
>
> http://www.nationaltubeform.com
<blocked::http://www.nationaltubeform.com/>
>
>
>
>

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> recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating,
> distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you
> received this communication in error, please notify the sender
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7
Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop' (psswrd 'shop').

That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID numbers in & IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be prompted for username & password to login/clock-in. If no password associated with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.

VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them OUT - so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked-in to.

Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day or your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and correct errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll date based).

Rob Brown

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...> wrote:

From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...>
Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM






We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing Vantage
implementation.

Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be for a
user to gain access to MES...?

When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks for
their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at this
point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then enters
their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand the
logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within the
user configuration.

Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to Vantage
and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic shop
operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the generic
operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.

Any advice would be welcome...

Thanks,

Nick Taylor
8
Wise words as always Rob, thanks... You should write a book!! ;o)

We are currently using an external time management system that is not
part of Vantage, and I am the first to admit that we have some real
discipline issues to sort out in terms of operators recording
accurately what they do. Funnily enough they are always very good at
recording their physical hours on site for the purposes of payroll,
but not so good at recording what they do when they are on site ;o) A
big part of our implementation is the cultural change that must take
place in order to run an effective MRP system. Rubbish in, rubbish
out and all that...

We closed our first jobs off today and that was not a pleasant
experience. Problems caused by lack of procedure around the creation
of parts has come back to haunt us. We will do better next time I am
sure. At least being in the UK I can now go for a cold beer whilst
you guys in the US keep working hard. Enjoy!

Thanks,

Nick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop'
(psswrd 'shop').
>
> That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID numbers in &
IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be prompted
for username & password to login/clock-in. If no password associated
with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.
>
> VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them OUT -
so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the
Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked-in to.
>
> Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day or
your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and correct
errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll date
based).
>
> Rob Brown
>
> --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...> wrote:
>
> From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
Vantage
> implementation.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be for
a
> user to gain access to MES...?
>
> When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks for
> their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
this
> point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then enters
> their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand the
> logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within the
> user configuration.
>
> Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to Vantage
> and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
> whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic shop
> operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
generic
> operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
>
> Any advice would be welcome...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Taylor
>
9
Have a cold one for me Nick. I'll enjoy it through osmosis :)

Rob

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...> wrote:

From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES User Login Protocol
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:08 PM






Wise words as always Rob, thanks... You should write a book!! ;o)

We are currently using an external time management system that is not
part of Vantage, and I am the first to admit that we have some real
discipline issues to sort out in terms of operators recording
accurately what they do. Funnily enough they are always very good at
recording their physical hours on site for the purposes of payroll,
but not so good at recording what they do when they are on site ;o) A
big part of our implementation is the cultural change that must take
place in order to run an effective MRP system. Rubbish in, rubbish
out and all that...

We closed our first jobs off today and that was not a pleasant
experience. Problems caused by lack of procedure around the creation
of parts has come back to haunt us. We will do better next time I am
sure. At least being in the UK I can now go for a cold beer whilst
you guys in the US keep working hard. Enjoy!

Thanks,

Nick

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop'
(psswrd 'shop').
>
> That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID numbers in &
IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be prompted
for username & password to login/clock- in. If no password associated
with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.
>
> VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them OUT -
so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the
Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked- in to.
>
> Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day or
your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and correct
errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll date
based).
>
> Rob Brown
>
> --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@.. .> wrote:
>
> From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@.. .>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
Vantage
> implementation.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be for
a
> user to gain access to MES...?
>
> When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks for
> their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
this
> point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then enters
> their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand the
> logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within the
> user configuration.
>
> Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to Vantage
> and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
> whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic shop
> operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
generic
> operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
>
> Any advice would be welcome...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Taylor
>
10
Have you noticed any issues using the same username for all MES
users. We had a problem a while back that Epicor did not have a
specific answer for. They attributed it to using the same login for
all MES users. We changed them, and don't have the issues anymore.
I can't say for sure that was the cause though.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Have a cold one for me Nick. I'll enjoy it through osmosis :)
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...> wrote:
>
> From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES User Login Protocol
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:08 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wise words as always Rob, thanks... You should write a book!! ;o)
>
> We are currently using an external time management system that is
not
> part of Vantage, and I am the first to admit that we have some
real
> discipline issues to sort out in terms of operators recording
> accurately what they do. Funnily enough they are always very good
at
> recording their physical hours on site for the purposes of
payroll,
> but not so good at recording what they do when they are on
site ;o) A
> big part of our implementation is the cultural change that must
take
> place in order to run an effective MRP system. Rubbish in, rubbish
> out and all that...
>
> We closed our first jobs off today and that was not a pleasant
> experience. Problems caused by lack of procedure around the
creation
> of parts has come back to haunt us. We will do better next time I
am
> sure. At least being in the UK I can now go for a cold beer whilst
> you guys in the US keep working hard. Enjoy!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop'
> (psswrd 'shop').
> >
> > That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID numbers in
&
> IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be
prompted
> for username & password to login/clock- in. If no password
associated
> with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.
> >
> > VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them
OUT -
> so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the
> Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked- in to.
> >
> > Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day or
> your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and correct
> errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll date
> based).
> >
> > Rob Brown
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .> wrote:
> >
> > From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .>
> > Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
> Vantage
> > implementation.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be
for
> a
> > user to gain access to MES...?
> >
> > When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks
for
> > their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
> this
> > point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then
enters
> > their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> > complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand
the
> > logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within
the
> > user configuration.
> >
> > Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to
Vantage
> > and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ), or
> > whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic
shop
> > operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
> generic
> > operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
> >
> > Any advice would be welcome...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Taylor
> >
>
11
We are just about to start using MES, so I will let you know if we
encounter any problems. We are starting in just one cell with about 5-
people. How many users did you have with the same MES login ?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
>
> Have you noticed any issues using the same username for all MES
> users. We had a problem a while back that Epicor did not have a
> specific answer for. They attributed it to using the same login
for
> all MES users. We changed them, and don't have the issues
anymore.
> I can't say for sure that was the cause though.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Have a cold one for me Nick. I'll enjoy it through osmosis :)
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@> wrote:
> >
> > From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES User Login Protocol
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:08 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wise words as always Rob, thanks... You should write a book!! ;o)
> >
> > We are currently using an external time management system that is
> not
> > part of Vantage, and I am the first to admit that we have some
> real
> > discipline issues to sort out in terms of operators recording
> > accurately what they do. Funnily enough they are always very good
> at
> > recording their physical hours on site for the purposes of
> payroll,
> > but not so good at recording what they do when they are on
> site ;o) A
> > big part of our implementation is the cultural change that must
> take
> > place in order to run an effective MRP system. Rubbish in,
rubbish
> > out and all that...
> >
> > We closed our first jobs off today and that was not a pleasant
> > experience. Problems caused by lack of procedure around the
> creation
> > of parts has come back to haunt us. We will do better next time I
> am
> > sure. At least being in the UK I can now go for a cold beer
whilst
> > you guys in the US keep working hard. Enjoy!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
<robertb_versa@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop'
> > (psswrd 'shop').
> > >
> > > That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID numbers
in
> &
> > IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be
> prompted
> > for username & password to login/clock- in. If no password
> associated
> > with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.
> > >
> > > VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them
> OUT -
> > so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the
> > Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked- in to.
> > >
> > > Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day or
> > your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and
correct
> > errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll
date
> > based).
> > >
> > > Rob Brown
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
> > Vantage
> > > implementation.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should be
> for
> > a
> > > user to gain access to MES...?
> > >
> > > When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously asks
> for
> > > their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves at
> > this
> > > point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then
> enters
> > > their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> > > complains that they are only allowed one session. I understand
> the
> > > logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved within
> the
> > > user configuration.
> > >
> > > Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to
> Vantage
> > > and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in twice ),
or
> > > whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a generic
> shop
> > > operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only the
> > generic
> > > operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
> > >
> > > Any advice would be welcome...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Nick Taylor
> > >
> >
>
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We had 15 users logging in at different stations.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "nmtaylor1969" <n.taylor@...> wrote:
>
> We are just about to start using MES, so I will let you know if we
> encounter any problems. We are starting in just one cell with
about 5-
> people. How many users did you have with the same MES login ?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
> <mmcwilliams22@> wrote:
> >
> > Have you noticed any issues using the same username for all MES
> > users. We had a problem a while back that Epicor did not have a
> > specific answer for. They attributed it to using the same login
> for
> > all MES users. We changed them, and don't have the issues
> anymore.
> > I can't say for sure that was the cause though.
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Have a cold one for me Nick. I'll enjoy it through osmosis :)
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES User Login Protocol
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:08 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wise words as always Rob, thanks... You should write a
book!! ;o)
> > >
> > > We are currently using an external time management system that
is
> > not
> > > part of Vantage, and I am the first to admit that we have some
> > real
> > > discipline issues to sort out in terms of operators recording
> > > accurately what they do. Funnily enough they are always very
good
> > at
> > > recording their physical hours on site for the purposes of
> > payroll,
> > > but not so good at recording what they do when they are on
> > site ;o) A
> > > big part of our implementation is the cultural change that
must
> > take
> > > place in order to run an effective MRP system. Rubbish in,
> rubbish
> > > out and all that...
> > >
> > > We closed our first jobs off today and that was not a pleasant
> > > experience. Problems caused by lack of procedure around the
> > creation
> > > of parts has come back to haunt us. We will do better next
time I
> > am
> > > sure. At least being in the UK I can now go for a cold beer
> whilst
> > > you guys in the US keep working hard. Enjoy!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
> <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Initially login to MES using the generic username 'shop'
> > > (psswrd 'shop').
> > > >
> > > > That will allow your shop employees to enter their ID
numbers
> in
> > &
> > > IF their associated usernames have a password, they will be
> > prompted
> > > for username & password to login/clock- in. If no password
> > associated
> > > with these limited access users, they will not be prompted.
> > > >
> > > > VERY important: When a user logsout, MES does NOT Clock them
> > OUT -
> > > so all labor reporting they do will continue to pile up in the
> > > Payroll date/shift they initially logged-in/clocked- in to.
> > > >
> > > > Get them in the habit of Clocking Out at the end of each day
or
> > > your supervisors will rapdily lose the ability to find and
> correct
> > > errant entries via full license Labor Entry (which is PayRoll
> date
> > > based).
> > > >
> > > > Rob Brown
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: nmtaylor1969 <n.taylor@ .>
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] MES User Login Protocol
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:30 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are just commencing our use of MES as part of our ongoing
> > > Vantage
> > > > implementation.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me what the proper user configuration should
be
> > for
> > > a
> > > > user to gain access to MES...?
> > > >
> > > > When the user initially logs in to MES, Vantage obviously
asks
> > for
> > > > their Vantage user login ( they are logging in as themselves
at
> > > this
> > > > point ). The MES form is then displayed. When the user then
> > enters
> > > > their shop operator ID, it again asks them to login and then
> > > > complains that they are only allowed one session. I
understand
> > the
> > > > logic in this, and I presume that this can be resolved
within
> > the
> > > > user configuration.
> > > >
> > > > Can sombody tell me if its normal to have the user login to
> > Vantage
> > > > and then again into MES ( i.e. the user is logged in
twice ),
> or
> > > > whether it is usual / better to log into Vantage as a
generic
> > shop
> > > > operator, and then into MES as themselves. Therefore only
the
> > > generic
> > > > operator would require the need for mlutiple sessions.
> > > >
> > > > Any advice would be welcome...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Nick Taylor
> > > >
> > >
> >
>