(OT) slow printer

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You may want to try connectin the printer to an NT workstation and see if
that affects performance, or at least a different 98 workstation.

Also make sure that all the workstations are using the same network protocol
settings. Using NetBEUI may slow things down if you're using it. We use
just TCP/IP, ever since we sent the old Novell box to the attic.

As one of the users mentioned, getting the printer hooked directly to the
network using a little print server box could help as well.

Try checking any differences in the windows print settings between the
default Windows NT and Windows 98 driver installations. Try experimenting
with different spool settings and spool data formats (RAW, EPS, PMJOURNAL,
ETC...)

Please let me know what the results are.

Best Regards,

Thaddeus



-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


It's directly connected to a 98 computer then everyone else is sharing the
printer from that computer.

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Anderson <tanderson@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


> Is this a direct connect between the PC and the printer via LPT port or
???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer
>
>
> We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY
long
> time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with a
> good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP
site
> hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed the
> drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter what
> software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or a
> standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wendy Bowen
> Network Administrator
> Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
> (810) 743-1600 ext.323
> wpursche@...



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We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY long time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with a good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP site hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed the drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter what software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or a standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...



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Is this a direct connect between the PC and the printer via LPT port or ???

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY long
time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with a
good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP site
hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed the
drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter what
software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or a
standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...



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It's directly connected to a 98 computer then everyone else is sharing the
printer from that computer.

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Anderson <tanderson@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


> Is this a direct connect between the PC and the printer via LPT port or
???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer
>
>
> We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY
long
> time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with a
> good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP
site
> hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed the
> drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter what
> software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or a
> standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wendy Bowen
> Network Administrator
> Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
> (810) 743-1600 ext.323
> wpursche@...
5
Although you can set up a printer through the "share my printer with
everyone" feature on a PC you will sacrifice performance on the PC it is
connected to and the Printer.
You would be better off connecting the printer directly into the network.
Most printers can be configured to work on the network for less than $300.00
if they do not already have a network port on them.

If that is not an option, look at the printer cable and the cat5 cable of
the NT workstation. Swap the cat5 cable with a new one and see if that
works. Determine if this is the only workstation that you are having a
problem with. See if other applications run slower on it. It may be a
simple cable problem or a port on your hub/switch (try another one). It may
be a problem with the PC itself. Try to "rule out" the simple fixes before
you spend any money on a maybe fix.

Kevin Kadamus

Intelligent Systems Integration, Inc.
58 Wolf Den Lane
Wheelock, VT 05851
802-626-9219 (Phone and Fax)
330-283-0725 (Cell)

"Helping business make intelligent use of technology"



-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


It's directly connected to a 98 computer then everyone else is sharing the
printer from that computer.

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Anderson <tanderson@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


> Is this a direct connect between the PC and the printer via LPT port or
???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer
>
>
> We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY
long
> time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with a
> good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP
site
> hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed the
> drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter what
> software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or a
> standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wendy Bowen
> Network Administrator
> Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
> (810) 743-1600 ext.323
> wpursche@...




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Those are some good suggestions! I agree with ruling out the simple things
before putting money in. I should have mentioned earlier that we bought 2
of these same printer series (900). They are located in different portions
of the shop. But, in both cases they are connected to a 98 computer
locally. So, I guess I could rule out the printer cable and patch cable.

~Wendy

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Kadamus <kevink@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


> Although you can set up a printer through the "share my printer with
> everyone" feature on a PC you will sacrifice performance on the PC it is
> connected to and the Printer.
> You would be better off connecting the printer directly into the network.
> Most printers can be configured to work on the network for less than
$300.00
> if they do not already have a network port on them.
>
> If that is not an option, look at the printer cable and the cat5 cable of
> the NT workstation. Swap the cat5 cable with a new one and see if that
> works. Determine if this is the only workstation that you are having a
> problem with. See if other applications run slower on it. It may be a
> simple cable problem or a port on your hub/switch (try another one). It
may
> be a problem with the PC itself. Try to "rule out" the simple fixes
before
> you spend any money on a maybe fix.
>
> Kevin Kadamus
>
> Intelligent Systems Integration, Inc.
> 58 Wolf Den Lane
> Wheelock, VT 05851
> 802-626-9219 (Phone and Fax)
> 330-283-0725 (Cell)
>
> "Helping business make intelligent use of technology"
7
The problem may arise from a printer file copy problem between the NT boxes
and the 98 print servers. In order to test this scenario, create a local
printer and in the Ports section, create a new port. Click Local, and type
the server and printer name for the printer (use the
\\servername\printername syntax). Use this port for the local printer. This
determines whether there is a problem with the copying of files from the
server to the workstation that occurs when you use a Connect To setup or
click Network Printer in the Add Printer Wizard.

Michael Barry
Barry Consulting Group

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer
>
>
> Those are some good suggestions! I agree with ruling out the
> simple things
> before putting money in. I should have mentioned earlier that we bought 2
> of these same printer series (900). They are located in
> different portions
> of the shop. But, in both cases they are connected to a 98 computer
> locally. So, I guess I could rule out the printer cable and patch cable.
>
> ~Wendy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Kadamus <kevink@...>
> To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer
>
>
> > Although you can set up a printer through the "share my printer with
> > everyone" feature on a PC you will sacrifice performance on the PC it is
> > connected to and the Printer.
> > You would be better off connecting the printer directly into
> the network.
> > Most printers can be configured to work on the network for less than
> $300.00
> > if they do not already have a network port on them.
> >
> > If that is not an option, look at the printer cable and the
> cat5 cable of
> > the NT workstation. Swap the cat5 cable with a new one and see if that
> > works. Determine if this is the only workstation that you are having a
> > problem with. See if other applications run slower on it. It may be a
> > simple cable problem or a port on your hub/switch (try another one). It
> may
> > be a problem with the PC itself. Try to "rule out" the simple fixes
> before
> > you spend any money on a maybe fix.
> >
> > Kevin Kadamus
> >
> > Intelligent Systems Integration, Inc.
> > 58 Wolf Den Lane
> > Wheelock, VT 05851
> > 802-626-9219 (Phone and Fax)
> > 330-283-0725 (Cell)
> >
> > "Helping business make intelligent use of technology"
>
>
>
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Wendy, this might be a silly question - did you download the drivers for
NT4.0 and install them on the workstation? I had a similar issue with a W2K
workstation printing to a NEC SS870 using the drivers off the original CD.
It took a very long time for the print to start, once it started printing
the first page it was fine. Went to NEC site and downloaded the W@K drivers,
installed and Viola --- peace and harmony restored!
Just my $.02

Jim Stetter
-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY
long time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with
a good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP
site hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed
the drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter
what software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or
a standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...



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Come to think of it - I had a the same thing happen with another style of
printer and W2K drivers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Stetter [mailto:jimstetter@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


Wendy, this might be a silly question - did you download the drivers for
NT4.0 and install them on the workstation? I had a similar issue with a W2K
workstation printing to a NEC SS870 using the drivers off the original CD.
It took a very long time for the print to start, once it started printing
the first page it was fine. Went to NEC site and downloaded the W@K drivers,
installed and Viola --- peace and harmony restored!
Just my $.02

Jim Stetter
-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


We just purchased a HP DJ932c. For some reason it takes a VERRRRRYYYY
long time for a computer with NT 4.0 to print to it. Win 95 & 98 print with
a good speed. I have downloaded, numerous times, the drivers from the HP
site hoping that I just had a bad driver. I have uninstalled and installed
the drivers. I have rebooted the computers. No luck. It doesn't matter
what software I'm printing from either, Word, Excel, MasterCAM, Vantage, or
a standard text file. I'm really at a loss for this one. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Wendy Bowen
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
(810) 743-1600 ext.323
wpursche@...



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10
We have several 932C's. We had the same problem, but it was with a win98
W/S, not an NT 40 W/S. It was a long time ago, but I think I switched that
printer with another older model and both of them worked great. It may have
had to do with the amt of memory in the printer and also the memory in and
overall speed of the Win98 workstation. We were printing large graphic
files on it. Haven't had to try out that theory on NT40 w/s yet. I tried
all the simple things first, and the switch seemed the path of least
resistance (as a former perfectionist, I apply the "law of 80-20" when I
can).

Good luck,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Bowen [mailto:wpursche@...]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


Those are some good suggestions! I agree with ruling out the simple things
before putting money in. I should have mentioned earlier that we bought 2
of these same printer series (900). They are located in different portions
of the shop. But, in both cases they are connected to a 98 computer
locally. So, I guess I could rule out the printer cable and patch cable.

~Wendy

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Kadamus <kevink@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] (OT) slow printer


> Although you can set up a printer through the "share my printer with
> everyone" feature on a PC you will sacrifice performance on the PC it is
> connected to and the Printer.
> You would be better off connecting the printer directly into the network.
> Most printers can be configured to work on the network for less than
$300.00
> if they do not already have a network port on them.
>
> If that is not an option, look at the printer cable and the cat5 cable of
> the NT workstation. Swap the cat5 cable with a new one and see if that
> works. Determine if this is the only workstation that you are having a
> problem with. See if other applications run slower on it. It may be a
> simple cable problem or a port on your hub/switch (try another one). It
may
> be a problem with the PC itself. Try to "rule out" the simple fixes
before
> you spend any money on a maybe fix.
>
> Kevin Kadamus
>
> Intelligent Systems Integration, Inc.
> 58 Wolf Den Lane
> Wheelock, VT 05851
> 802-626-9219 (Phone and Fax)
> 330-283-0725 (Cell)
>
> "Helping business make intelligent use of technology"



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