Scrapped a quantity on a job operation

We scrapped a quantity on a job operation. Is there a way for Epicor to automatically generate a rework quantity for the job?
Here’s what our process looks like, and I’ll indicate where the scrap occurred:
Laser - 100 pcs (good)
Deburr - 100 pcs (good)
Form - 98 pcs good, 2 pcs bad

We need those 2 pcs ASAP. How does Epicor handle this? We need to Laser 2 more parts (i.e. go back to the beginning of the process).

Thanks,
Nolan

I don’t believe it does, not that I recall. Perhaps a rather complicated BPM (or Automation Studio recipe) could be create a copy the job and adjust the Prod Qty?

Or, if these are stock and have demand (or min qty settings), could MRP be sued to create the jobs?

The parts that we scrapped are Non-Stock parts - they are Pull-as-Assembly on the job.

So how do we most efficiently get this new demand in the system so our laser operator can laser the replacement parts?

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I’m not sure. We do not have multi-assembly parts, and nothing that is non-stock as far as materials go. There doesn’t seem to be any sort of trigger there for Epicor to automatically create another job.

You may have to do that manually or with a BPM - but I’d wait and see if anyone else has an idea.

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Of course, you have a famous actor with the same name.

At the end of your TV show, you would more likely say:

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Is there even a manual way to link a rework job to the original?

Epicor does not provide any functionality to automate scrap, nor should they. Each company is very different in how they operate and there is no middle ground in this situation.

As an example, let’s take your situation and apply it at different companies.

  • Your company wants to automatically create another job to cover the scrap
  • Company A really only needed 90, so they don’t want anything to happen
  • Company B will make up the loss on the next job
  • Company C just issues more material to the job and “catches up” the 2 pieces
  • Etc…

The easiest and quickest way to address your situation is to just issue more material to the job and have the new pieces catch up to the rest of the job. This has multiple benefits like not needing a new job, the costing for the order is accurate instead of having to add up two jobs, and reporting will be accurate too.

That makes sense. I like the idea of just issuing more material to the job. How do you capture the labor costs associated with “catching up” the remaining 2 pcs?

Nothing stops them from logging into a completed operation, so just have them log in. You can even instruct them to check the rework box.

Our manufactured parts are standard cost, so we don’t clock in and out of jobs for actual production times. We would like to see the labor as a variance, though…

Maybe we need to use Job Adjustment for the extra labor associated with the rework.

Look at the Production Yield Recalc functionality. You flag the part to allow it and run a scheduled process to recalc in the background. The recalc process will decrease the job quantity which would trigger MRP to recreate supply jobs.
I believe that functionality became available some time in the Epicor 10 range. We use it specifically because of laser parts since we can’t “catch up” parts, have to rebuild the nests.

Jenn

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Wow, I always thought that functionality was for post job calculations, not in process jobs. Thanks for the information @JennL

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You’re too kind!

Jobs where the quantity is decreased mid process will still get hung up in job completion due to too material or labor, but at least they will now be candidates for completion if run auto complete/close processes or in Job Closing candidate filter.

Jenn

@JennL , I am trying out the functionality and when I ran the process, it made the production qty 0. What am I missing?

Op 10 on the job had all material issued and then the operation was completed scrapping all pieces. How do I get the demand to open back up so more material can be purchased direct to the job? Also, how do I stop it from adjusting the production quantity to 0?

If you run MRP it will create a new job for the demand. If you don’t use MRP, then it should show as a new suggestion in the planning workbench.

You do want it to set the quantity down to 0 so it kicks off new supplier (I meant MRP will create a new SUPPLY in my earlier post)

Ah, got it. Thanks