Some MRP jobs have no method

I know we had several elusive issues surrounding what you are
describing. That was when we were just doing a normal net change MRP
run. Since we went to a full regen those seem to have disappeared.



Rob Bucek

Manufacturing Engineer

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method





Everything works fine. It doesn't appear to be part specific. There
were no problems with this part in the past and I expect there won't be
any problems with it in the future. The unfirmed job was created, it
just didn't have a BOM attached to it. Epicor has me trying an
experiment tonight. We deleted the job for this part that was created
from MRP. Tomorrow, MRP should show another unfirm job for this same
part from the same demand. If the new job also has a problem with the
BOM, then it could be demand related problem.

________________________________
From: Gary Parfrey <garyp@... <mailto:garyp%40dotnetit.co.uk>
>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:19:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method


Does quick job entry work OK for this part?

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf
Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 16:42
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

Looks like you might be on to something. There seems to be an error
copying the BOM from the part to the unfirm job:

20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94
20:00:30 Deleting suggestions
20:00:30 Processing non-stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing order requirement, Order:112533 Line:1 Rel:1.
20:00:30 Get Destination
20:00:30 Create Interplant Supply
20:00:30 Creating new unfirm job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Adding to job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Copying BOM from Part:3639-94 Rev:A to Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Error creating Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Sent job U0000000000005 for scheduling
20:00:30 Processing stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Beginning Balance 0
20:00:30 Done with Part 3639-94

Doesn't help a whole lot since it doesn't tell me what or why the error
occured.

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Gary Parfrey <garyp@dotnetit. co.uk <mailto:garyp% 40dotnetit.
co.uk>
>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:26:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

See if there is anything in the MRP logs?

Gary

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@ yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf
Of sgotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 14:32
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes
from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is
created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and
do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or
parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know
what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.

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We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.
I would start with the usual suspects such as whether the parts had approved revisions at the time the orders were released. Look at the sales orders for those jobs and see if the revision on the part are blank or have a revision.

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, sgotschall <sgotschall@...> wrote:


From: sgotschall <sgotschall@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:32 AM


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We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.



















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See if there is anything in the MRP logs?



Gary



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sgotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 14:32
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method





We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes
from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is
created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and
do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or
parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know
what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.





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Looks like you might be on to something. There seems to be an error copying the BOM from the part to the unfirm job:

20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94
20:00:30 Deleting suggestions
20:00:30 Processing non-stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing order requirement, Order:112533 Line:1 Rel:1.
20:00:30 Get Destination
20:00:30 Create Interplant Supply
20:00:30 Creating new unfirm job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Adding to job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Copying BOM from Part:3639-94 Rev:A to Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Error creating Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Sent job U0000000000005 for scheduling
20:00:30 Processing stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Beginning Balance 0
20:00:30 Done with Part 3639-94

Doesn't help a whole lot since it doesn't tell me what or why the error occured.



________________________________
From: Gary Parfrey <garyp@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:26:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

Â
See if there is anything in the MRP logs?

Gary

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of sgotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 14:32
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes
from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is
created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and
do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or
parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know
what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.

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Does quick job entry work OK for this part?



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 16:42
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method





Looks like you might be on to something. There seems to be an error
copying the BOM from the part to the unfirm job:

20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94
20:00:30 Deleting suggestions
20:00:30 Processing non-stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing order requirement, Order:112533 Line:1 Rel:1.
20:00:30 Get Destination
20:00:30 Create Interplant Supply
20:00:30 Creating new unfirm job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Adding to job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Copying BOM from Part:3639-94 Rev:A to Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Error creating Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Sent job U0000000000005 for scheduling
20:00:30 Processing stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Beginning Balance 0
20:00:30 Done with Part 3639-94

Doesn't help a whole lot since it doesn't tell me what or why the error
occured.

________________________________
From: Gary Parfrey <garyp@... <mailto:garyp%40dotnetit.co.uk>
>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:26:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method


See if there is anything in the MRP logs?

Gary

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf
Of sgotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 14:32
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes
from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is
created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and
do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or
parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know
what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.

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Everything works fine. It doesn't appear to be part specific. There were no problems with this part in the past and I expect there won't be any problems with it in the future. The unfirmed job was created, it just didn't have a BOM attached to it. Epicor has me trying an experiment tonight. We deleted the job for this part that was created from MRP. Tomorrow, MRP should show another unfirm job for this same part from the same demand. If the new job also has a problem with the BOM, then it could be demand related problem.




________________________________
From: Gary Parfrey <garyp@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:19:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

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Does quick job entry work OK for this part?

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Steven Gotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 16:42
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

Looks like you might be on to something. There seems to be an error
copying the BOM from the part to the unfirm job:

20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing Part:3639-94
20:00:30 Deleting suggestions
20:00:30 Processing non-stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Processing order requirement, Order:112533 Line:1 Rel:1.
20:00:30 Get Destination
20:00:30 Create Interplant Supply
20:00:30 Creating new unfirm job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Adding to job:U0000000000005 Quantity:10.
20:00:30 Copying BOM from Part:3639-94 Rev:A to Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Error creating Job:U0000000000005.
20:00:30 Sent job U0000000000005 for scheduling
20:00:30 Processing stock transactions for Part:3639-94.
20:00:30 Beginning Balance 0
20:00:30 Done with Part 3639-94

Doesn't help a whole lot since it doesn't tell me what or why the error
occured.

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Gary Parfrey <garyp@dotnetit. co.uk <mailto:garyp% 40dotnetit. co.uk>
>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:26:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

See if there is anything in the MRP logs?

Gary

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@ yahoogroups .com] On
Behalf
Of sgotschall
Sent: 23 September 2009 14:32
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Some MRP jobs have no method

We are on Vantage 8.03.408a Progress

My planner tells me that out of about 40 jobs every day he processes
from MRP, 3 or 4 of them will not pull in the method when the job is
created. The methods are there and all he has to do is open the job and
do a get details, but we have not found anything common in these jobs or
parts that is causeing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this? Its not a big deal, but I would like to know
what is causing it and if we can avoid haveing to take the extra steps.

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