Specifying Production Standards for Operations

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It has something to do with planning.

I discussed using sub-assemblies with them for materials, to account for the amount of bars required for a job rather than just the number of inches (partial bars are not often useable for us).

Apparently a few years ago they tried this, and the demand wasnt being properly generated when using sub-assemblies. This caused a lot of scheduling problems, and so they discontinued the use of sub-assemblies.

I will bring it up again in our next meeting.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>
> Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> What is production's problem? Almost everyone of our jobs has
> sub-assemblies and production has never had any issues.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM, ssoeder@... <ssoeder@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions for a solution that works both in production
> > and quoting?
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@" <ssoeder@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I found this, which is great for production, but does not appear to be
> > available for quoting.
> > >
> > > Is there a way that would accomodate what I need in production and for
> > quoting purposes?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Part Set up in Engineering - Plants tab - MRP planning
> > > > Georgia
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@" <ssoeder@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Gamcb_1,
> > > > >
> > > > > Where can I specify the minimum run quantity?
> > > > > When engineering parts, i have a field for Run Qty - but it is a
> > derived (greyed out) field that cannot be edited.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run
> > quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add
> > your
> > > > > > > operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@ <ssoeder@>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good afternoon,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production
> > standard
> > > > > > > > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100
> > pieces and
> > > > > > > > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > > > > > > > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces,
> > and I need
> > > > > > > > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > > > > > > > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes,
> > 201-300 = 90
> > > > > > > > minutes, etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set
> > this up?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > > > > > > > Fixed Hours
> > > > > > > > Hours/Piece
> > > > > > > > Minutes/Piece
> > > > > > > > Operations/Hour
> > > > > > > > Operations/Minute
> > > > > > > > Pieces/Hour
> > > > > > > > Pieces/Minute
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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Good afternoon,

I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard based on minutes per X number of parts.

For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need it to not calculate partial loads.
So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90 minutes, etc.


Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?

My "unit" options for Production standard are:
Fixed Hours
Hours/Piece
Minutes/Piece
Operations/Hour
Operations/Minute
Pieces/Hour
Pieces/Minute

We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
3
Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5

Scott


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@... <ssoeder@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> based on minutes per X number of parts.
>
> For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> it to not calculate partial loads.
> So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> minutes, etc.
>
> Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
>
> My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> Fixed Hours
> Hours/Piece
> Minutes/Piece
> Operations/Hour
> Operations/Minute
> Pieces/Hour
> Pieces/Minute
>
> We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Scott, thanks for the suggestion!

I think that will work for quoting purposes, to get the costs and lead times right.

I'm afraid it will be very, very messy for production - I will have to discuss with our production manager.





--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>
> Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@... <ssoeder@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> >
> > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> > minutes, etc.
> >
> > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
> >
> > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > Fixed Hours
> > Hours/Piece
> > Minutes/Piece
> > Operations/Hour
> > Operations/Minute
> > Pieces/Hour
> > Pieces/Minute
> >
> > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@...> wrote:
>
> Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@... <ssoeder@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> >
> > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> > minutes, etc.
> >
> > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
> >
> > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > Fixed Hours
> > Hours/Piece
> > Minutes/Piece
> > Operations/Hour
> > Operations/Minute
> > Pieces/Hour
> > Pieces/Minute
> >
> > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Hi Gamcb_1,

Where can I specify the minimum run quantity?
When engineering parts, i have a field for Run Qty - but it is a derived (greyed out) field that cannot be edited.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@...> wrote:
>
> set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@> wrote:
> >
> > Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> > operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@ <ssoeder@>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Good afternoon,
> > >
> > > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> > > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> > >
> > > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> > > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> > > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> > > minutes, etc.
> > >
> > > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
> > >
> > > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > > Fixed Hours
> > > Hours/Piece
> > > Minutes/Piece
> > > Operations/Hour
> > > Operations/Minute
> > > Pieces/Hour
> > > Pieces/Minute
> > >
> > > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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Part Set up in Engineering - Plants tab - MRP planning
Georgia

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@..." <ssoeder@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gamcb_1,
>
> Where can I specify the minimum run quantity?
> When engineering parts, i have a field for Run Qty - but it is a derived (greyed out) field that cannot be edited.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> >
> > set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> > > operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@ <ssoeder@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good afternoon,
> > > >
> > > > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> > > > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> > > >
> > > > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> > > > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > > > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> > > > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > > > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> > > > minutes, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
> > > >
> > > > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > > > Fixed Hours
> > > > Hours/Piece
> > > > Minutes/Piece
> > > > Operations/Hour
> > > > Operations/Minute
> > > > Pieces/Hour
> > > > Pieces/Minute
> > > >
> > > > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
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I found this, which is great for production, but does not appear to be available for quoting.

Is there a way that would accomodate what I need in production and for quoting purposes?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@...> wrote:
>
> Part Set up in Engineering - Plants tab - MRP planning
> Georgia
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@" <ssoeder@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gamcb_1,
> >
> > Where can I specify the minimum run quantity?
> > When engineering parts, i have a field for Run Qty - but it is a derived (greyed out) field that cannot be edited.
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> > > > operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@ <ssoeder@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good afternoon,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> > > > > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> > > > > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > > > > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> > > > > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > > > > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> > > > > minutes, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
> > > > >
> > > > > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > > > > Fixed Hours
> > > > > Hours/Piece
> > > > > Minutes/Piece
> > > > > Operations/Hour
> > > > > Operations/Minute
> > > > > Pieces/Hour
> > > > > Pieces/Minute
> > > > >
> > > > > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
9
Anyone have any suggestions for a solution that works both in production and quoting?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@..." <ssoeder@...> wrote:
>
> I found this, which is great for production, but does not appear to be available for quoting.
>
> Is there a way that would accomodate what I need in production and for quoting purposes?
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> >
> > Part Set up in Engineering - Plants tab - MRP planning
> > Georgia
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@" <ssoeder@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Gamcb_1,
> > >
> > > Where can I specify the minimum run quantity?
> > > When engineering parts, i have a field for Run Qty - but it is a derived (greyed out) field that cannot be edited.
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
> > > > > operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@ <ssoeder@>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good afternoon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production standard
> > > > > > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100 pieces and
> > > > > > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > > > > > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces, and I need
> > > > > > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > > > > > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes, 201-300 = 90
> > > > > > minutes, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set this up?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > > > > > Fixed Hours
> > > > > > Hours/Piece
> > > > > > Minutes/Piece
> > > > > > Operations/Hour
> > > > > > Operations/Minute
> > > > > > Pieces/Hour
> > > > > > Pieces/Minute
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add your
operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
What is production's problem? Almost everyone of our jobs has
sub-assemblies and production has never had any issues.

Scott


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM, ssoeder@... <ssoeder@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for a solution that works both in production
> and quoting?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@..." <ssoeder@...> wrote:
> >
> > I found this, which is great for production, but does not appear to be
> available for quoting.
> >
> > Is there a way that would accomodate what I need in production and for
> quoting purposes?
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Part Set up in Engineering - Plants tab - MRP planning
> > > Georgia
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ssoeder@" <ssoeder@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gamcb_1,
> > > >
> > > > Where can I specify the minimum run quantity?
> > > > When engineering parts, i have a field for Run Qty - but it is a
> derived (greyed out) field that cannot be edited.
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "gamcb_1" <gmcbroom@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > set your standard at .3 minutes per piece and your minimum run
> quantity at 100 with multiples of 100.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scotty K." <scottyk537@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try creating a sub-assembly with a qty/parent of 0.01 and add
> your
> > > > > > operation to the subassembly as a fixed hours 0.5
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM, ssoeder@ <ssoeder@>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good afternoon,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like some help in finding a way to specify production
> standard
> > > > > > > based on minutes per X number of parts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For example, in a cleaning operation, my maximum load is 100
> pieces and
> > > > > > > the cleaning cycle takes 1/2 hour to complete.
> > > > > > > I would like to be able to specify 30 minutes per 100 pieces,
> and I need
> > > > > > > it to not calculate partial loads.
> > > > > > > So 1-100 pieces = 30 minutes, 101-200 pieces = 60 minutes,
> 201-300 = 90
> > > > > > > minutes, etc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there a good way to do this in Vantage? How would I set
> this up?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My "unit" options for Production standard are:
> > > > > > > Fixed Hours
> > > > > > > Hours/Piece
> > > > > > > Minutes/Piece
> > > > > > > Operations/Hour
> > > > > > > Operations/Minute
> > > > > > > Pieces/Hour
> > > > > > > Pieces/Minute
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are on Vantage version 8.03.409C
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>


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