Ok, I got it working.
My next problem is scheduling. With this example, it's not scheduling the job correctly. My purchured part is non-stock and the lead time is 30 days. It's not using that in the schedule, or at least showing me in the Scheduling Board.
Should I setup this manufactured part to have two outside operations?
10 - to buy the non-stock part W500305
20 - to paint the part
This is the only why I've been able to get the sceduling date to work correctly.
Are there any pros or cons of setting it each of these ways?
----- Original Message ----
From: Charlie Smith <CSmith@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 1:24:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03.305 - parts question
You have two situations for the same part. You buy it complete and
resell it (or use it as a component in a higher level assembly) As well
as buy the unfinished parts and get it painted. Let's take the
situations separately:
____________ _________ _________ __
Example. We have a part 500304, hood. This is a metal part we buy from a
supplier, and we send this part to another supplier to get painted.
Manufactured Part: 500304
Purchased Material Part: 500304U - Unpainted Hood (or use the supplier's
part number or keep yours and use the supplier's as a cross reference
since you could buy it from multiple suppliers)
Operations: OP10 - Subcontract Paint - Outside
operation (Cost: $x/pc - Days out x days)
This bill has one material (the unfinished hood) and one subcontract
operation (Subcontract Paint). The 'paint price' would be the
subcontracted cost from the subcontractor. This can be tracked in the
price breaks (or RFQ system) for the subcontract operation. The material
can be stock and tracked in the inventory or non-stock and bought for
the job.
____________ _________ _________ __
Also sometimes this part, 500304, we buy from another supplier who makes
the part and paints it complete, one price.
You can always purchase a manufactured part. Use the same part number
(500304). Use the supplier price breaks (or the RFQ system) to record
pricing and lead time from the suppliers.
____________ _________ _________ __
In each case, after one or two purchases, the purchasing information
would be in the purchase advisor and the part advisor would have much of
the other information.
____________ _________ _________ __
This part would be a non-stock part and set to back flush.
If you buy direct to the job, there would be no back flushing required.
If you want to keep the materials in stock, you would have to issue the
materials because there are no inside operations to back flush against.
Unless there is something I am missing.
____________ _________ _________ __
Charlie Smith
Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies
http://www.VistaCon sultant.com <http://www.vistacon sultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com
CT: (860) 620-9553
PA: (814) 333-3117
IL: (312) 583-9985
From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of josephdavidberg
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03.305 - parts question
Hello,
I've been browsing this group for a few weeks now, and have a
question.
We are new to Vantage, and have been working hard on our implentation
using the online elearning.
The question is about creating parts.
We have been trying to decide how we should setup our parts. Since
many of our parts are weldments that get painted, and we would like
to track paint price from our suppliers. We're not sure if paint
should be a part or not.
Example. We have a part 500304, hood. This is a metal part we buy
from a supplier, and we send this part to another supplier to get
painted. Also sometimes this part, 500304, we buy from another
supplier who makes the part and paints it complete, one price.
I would like to only track the quantities of 500304, I don't want to
track any quantities on the weldment or the paint. Should we setup
500304 as a manufacture part, and create two additional parts,
W500304 would track the weldment. This part would be a non-stock
part and set to back flush. We would also create a part called
P500304, this would also be a nonstock backflush item.
Then since we have 500304 as a manufactured item, we can create a bom
and mom. The bom would be W500304 and P500304. The mom would just
be a simple step to hold the bom. It really won't do anything
because each part would back flush to the parent.
What my questions are:
1) Am I in left field?
2) I'm concerned with the steps to process an PO for the demand that
is put on 500304.
3) I'm concerned when we decide to buy 500304 from a different
supplier, would Vantage keep track of supply and demand correctly on
500304, W500304 and P500304?
Sincerely,
Joe Berg
DJ Products, Inc.
1009 4th Street NW
Little Falls, MN 56345
(320) 632-2651 x201
Fax (320) 632-3553
www.djproducts. com
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My next problem is scheduling. With this example, it's not scheduling the job correctly. My purchured part is non-stock and the lead time is 30 days. It's not using that in the schedule, or at least showing me in the Scheduling Board.
Should I setup this manufactured part to have two outside operations?
10 - to buy the non-stock part W500305
20 - to paint the part
This is the only why I've been able to get the sceduling date to work correctly.
Are there any pros or cons of setting it each of these ways?
----- Original Message ----
From: Charlie Smith <CSmith@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 1:24:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03.305 - parts question
You have two situations for the same part. You buy it complete and
resell it (or use it as a component in a higher level assembly) As well
as buy the unfinished parts and get it painted. Let's take the
situations separately:
____________ _________ _________ __
Example. We have a part 500304, hood. This is a metal part we buy from a
supplier, and we send this part to another supplier to get painted.
Manufactured Part: 500304
Purchased Material Part: 500304U - Unpainted Hood (or use the supplier's
part number or keep yours and use the supplier's as a cross reference
since you could buy it from multiple suppliers)
Operations: OP10 - Subcontract Paint - Outside
operation (Cost: $x/pc - Days out x days)
This bill has one material (the unfinished hood) and one subcontract
operation (Subcontract Paint). The 'paint price' would be the
subcontracted cost from the subcontractor. This can be tracked in the
price breaks (or RFQ system) for the subcontract operation. The material
can be stock and tracked in the inventory or non-stock and bought for
the job.
____________ _________ _________ __
Also sometimes this part, 500304, we buy from another supplier who makes
the part and paints it complete, one price.
You can always purchase a manufactured part. Use the same part number
(500304). Use the supplier price breaks (or the RFQ system) to record
pricing and lead time from the suppliers.
____________ _________ _________ __
In each case, after one or two purchases, the purchasing information
would be in the purchase advisor and the part advisor would have much of
the other information.
____________ _________ _________ __
This part would be a non-stock part and set to back flush.
If you buy direct to the job, there would be no back flushing required.
If you want to keep the materials in stock, you would have to issue the
materials because there are no inside operations to back flush against.
Unless there is something I am missing.
____________ _________ _________ __
Charlie Smith
Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies
http://www.VistaCon sultant.com <http://www.vistacon sultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com
CT: (860) 620-9553
PA: (814) 333-3117
IL: (312) 583-9985
From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of josephdavidberg
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03.305 - parts question
Hello,
I've been browsing this group for a few weeks now, and have a
question.
We are new to Vantage, and have been working hard on our implentation
using the online elearning.
The question is about creating parts.
We have been trying to decide how we should setup our parts. Since
many of our parts are weldments that get painted, and we would like
to track paint price from our suppliers. We're not sure if paint
should be a part or not.
Example. We have a part 500304, hood. This is a metal part we buy
from a supplier, and we send this part to another supplier to get
painted. Also sometimes this part, 500304, we buy from another
supplier who makes the part and paints it complete, one price.
I would like to only track the quantities of 500304, I don't want to
track any quantities on the weldment or the paint. Should we setup
500304 as a manufacture part, and create two additional parts,
W500304 would track the weldment. This part would be a non-stock
part and set to back flush. We would also create a part called
P500304, this would also be a nonstock backflush item.
Then since we have 500304 as a manufactured item, we can create a bom
and mom. The bom would be W500304 and P500304. The mom would just
be a simple step to hold the bom. It really won't do anything
because each part would back flush to the parent.
What my questions are:
1) Am I in left field?
2) I'm concerned with the steps to process an PO for the demand that
is put on 500304.
3) I'm concerned when we decide to buy 500304 from a different
supplier, would Vantage keep track of supply and demand correctly on
500304, W500304 and P500304?
Sincerely,
Joe Berg
DJ Products, Inc.
1009 4th Street NW
Little Falls, MN 56345
(320) 632-2651 x201
Fax (320) 632-3553
www.djproducts. com
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