Vantage 8.03.305F forward scheduling

Unfortunately, we have have about 400 complex (up to 16 OPs through 75 resources in the 1-4 week out window of our machine shop schedules) and 800-1100 simple jobs (typically single OPs) active in our assembly operation. Our customer order lead times are about 5 days, everything is assemble to order, we enter and process customer order 170 line items a day (completing & shipping the same average amount) - so we can not massively lock our schedules.

We need to be able to reprioritize (adapting to new demand requirements in hours) even in process jobs.

Thanks though!

Perhaps some kind of semi-automated use of job-locking (via a customization of some kind driven by a BAM triggered by scheduling activity) may prove to be the solution to get around Vantage 8's poor support for simple 1960's forward scheduling.

(Keep those ideas coming please!)

Rob Brown
Versa Products






Carey S <rotary1@...> wrote:
Set the LOCK flag in the job. Then it will not be readjusted based on constraints.


To: vantage@yahoogroups.comCC: robertb@...: robertb_versa@...: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:36:54 -0700Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03.305F forward scheduling




We are about 1/2 way through our piloting before going live on Vantage 8.04.305F in several months.In our current system (Profitkey v7), we have found forward scheduling with use of prioritization gives us our best results when scheduling our finite resource machine shop (which is essentially a component supplier) and forward scheduling (no prioritization) gives us the desired schedule results in our infinitely scheduled Assembly area (our profit center).I'm finding serious weaknesses with forward scheduling in Vantage:1. In 'by the book' forward scheduling logic, it is the user defined Start date of each Job that the single order scheduler or Global scheduler should retain and respect when jobs are coninuously rescheduled. In Vantage Forward scheduling: ALL jobs (whether using the single order scheduler in job entry or the Global scheduler) are attempted to be started on (or after - if capacity constraints exist) the single "Start Date" field that the user can specify once
they check off forward scheduling.This is completely in appopriate forward scheduling behavior in my mind. Does anyone know if there is a global set up app hidden somewhere that forces the Global to always the use the user defined start date of each job? 2. Even when forward scheduling in infinite mode, the scheduler does not respect the resource calendard/shifts set up. Example: We have an assembly infinite capacity resource set up with a Mo-Fri 8/hr day standard calendar with the shift associated with it running from 7am-2:30pm.Yet, when I forward schedule a single job through this resource (with a 25 minute total processing time), It STARTS the job (today) at 6:35am so the job COMPLETES by exactly the start of the shift (7am).Has anyone else encountered this and, if so, is it an indication of something not being set up correctly (or is there a reasonable workaround)?ThanksRob BrownVersa Products ---------------------------------Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to
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We are about 1/2 way through our piloting before going live on Vantage 8.04.305F in several months.

In our current system (Profitkey v7), we have found forward scheduling with use of prioritization gives us our best results when scheduling our finite resource machine shop (which is essentially a component supplier) and forward scheduling (no prioritization) gives us the desired schedule results in our infinitely scheduled Assembly area (our profit center).

I'm finding serious weaknesses with forward scheduling in Vantage:

1. In 'by the book' forward scheduling logic, it is the user defined Start date of each Job that the single order scheduler or Global scheduler should retain and respect when jobs are coninuously rescheduled.

In Vantage Forward scheduling: ALL jobs (whether using the single order scheduler in job entry or the Global scheduler) are attempted to be started on (or after - if capacity constraints exist) the single "Start Date" field that the user can specify once they check off forward scheduling.

This is completely in appopriate forward scheduling behavior in my mind. Does anyone know if there is a global set up app hidden somewhere that forces the Global to always the use the user defined start date of each job?

2. Even when forward scheduling in infinite mode, the scheduler does not respect the resource calendard/shifts set up.

Example: We have an assembly infinite capacity resource set up with a Mo-Fri 8/hr day standard calendar with the shift associated with it running from 7am-2:30pm.

Yet, when I forward schedule a single job through this resource (with a 25 minute total processing time), It STARTS the job (today) at 6:35am so the job COMPLETES by exactly the start of the shift (7am).

Has anyone else encountered this and, if so, is it an indication of something not being set up correctly (or is there a reasonable workaround)?

Thanks

Rob Brown
Versa Products




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Set the LOCK flag in the job. Then it will not be readjusted based on constraints.


To: vantage@yahoogroups.comCC: robertb@...: robertb_versa@...: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:36:54 -0700Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.03.305F forward scheduling




We are about 1/2 way through our piloting before going live on Vantage 8.04.305F in several months.In our current system (Profitkey v7), we have found forward scheduling with use of prioritization gives us our best results when scheduling our finite resource machine shop (which is essentially a component supplier) and forward scheduling (no prioritization) gives us the desired schedule results in our infinitely scheduled Assembly area (our profit center).I'm finding serious weaknesses with forward scheduling in Vantage:1. In 'by the book' forward scheduling logic, it is the user defined Start date of each Job that the single order scheduler or Global scheduler should retain and respect when jobs are coninuously rescheduled. In Vantage Forward scheduling: ALL jobs (whether using the single order scheduler in job entry or the Global scheduler) are attempted to be started on (or after - if capacity constraints exist) the single "Start Date" field that the user can specify once they check off forward scheduling.This is completely in appopriate forward scheduling behavior in my mind. Does anyone know if there is a global set up app hidden somewhere that forces the Global to always the use the user defined start date of each job? 2. Even when forward scheduling in infinite mode, the scheduler does not respect the resource calendard/shifts set up. Example: We have an assembly infinite capacity resource set up with a Mo-Fri 8/hr day standard calendar with the shift associated with it running from 7am-2:30pm.Yet, when I forward schedule a single job through this resource (with a 25 minute total processing time), It STARTS the job (today) at 6:35am so the job COMPLETES by exactly the start of the shift (7am).Has anyone else encountered this and, if so, is it an indication of something not being set up correctly (or is there a reasonable workaround)?ThanksRob BrownVersa Products ---------------------------------Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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