.409C Scheduling problem- Looking for some Guru help

No we are not on 409C yet. Sounds like a bug. When you run the manual scheduling, trying just running backward infinite.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, melissa hietala <kevmel822@...> wrote:
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> Yes we do schedule right away. The problem seems to be with the process
> backwards scheduling and then needing to 'bounce' to forward scheduling.
> Have you been on 409C long?
>  Melissa Hietala
> UMC, Inc.
> melissah@...
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> From: Monte <monte.tomerlin@...>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 8:32:58 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: .409C Scheduling problem- Looking for some Guru help
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> At the time of Releasing the Job, do you immediately run any form of manual
> scheduling. I ask only because that is my practice and I have never experienced
> your outcome.
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> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, melissa hietala <kevmel822@> wrote:
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> > Since upgrading to .409C we ran a global processing schedule and have some
> > issues. Scheduled in Finite and infinite modes both, with same results.
> >
> > 1. We have jobs that are scheduled and show up on priority dispatch and shop
> > loads, but are not visible on scheduling boards until we do a load level
> > process. Then they pop in.
> > 2. Those jobs that pop in, if you look at job change logs, it does not show
> >them
> >
> > being part of the process.
> > 3. Looking at the scheduling logs for those same jobs, the one constant in all
>
> > that noise, is that they all had to 'bounce' becasue they could not schedule
> > backwards and make the date.
> >
> > Thanks
> >  Melissa Hietala
> > UMC, Inc.
> > melissah@
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Since upgrading to .409C we ran a global processing schedule and have some
issues. Scheduled in Finite and infinite modes both, with same results.

1. We have jobs that are scheduled and show up on priority dispatch and shop
loads, but are not visible on scheduling boards until we do a load level
process. Then they pop in.
2. Those jobs that pop in, if you look at job change logs, it does not show them
being part of the process.
3. Looking at the scheduling logs for those same jobs, the one constant in all
that noise, is that they all had to 'bounce' becasue they could not schedule
backwards and make the date.

Thanks
 Melissa Hietala
UMC, Inc.
melissah@...



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At the time of Releasing the Job, do you immediately run any form of manual scheduling. I ask only because that is my practice and I have never experienced your outcome.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, melissa hietala <kevmel822@...> wrote:
>
> Since upgrading to .409C we ran a global processing schedule and have some
> issues. Scheduled in Finite and infinite modes both, with same results.
>
> 1. We have jobs that are scheduled and show up on priority dispatch and shop
> loads, but are not visible on scheduling boards until we do a load level
> process. Then they pop in.
> 2. Those jobs that pop in, if you look at job change logs, it does not show them
> being part of the process.
> 3. Looking at the scheduling logs for those same jobs, the one constant in all
> that noise, is that they all had to 'bounce' becasue they could not schedule
> backwards and make the date.
>
> Thanks
> Â Melissa Hietala
> UMC, Inc.
> melissah@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Yes we do schedule right away. The problem seems to be with the process
backwards scheduling and then needing to 'bounce' to forward scheduling.
Have you been on 409C long?
 Melissa Hietala
UMC, Inc.
melissah@...




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From: Monte <monte.tomerlin@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 8:32:58 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: .409C Scheduling problem- Looking for some Guru help

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At the time of Releasing the Job, do you immediately run any form of manual
scheduling. I ask only because that is my practice and I have never experienced
your outcome.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, melissa hietala <kevmel822@...> wrote:
>
> Since upgrading to .409C we ran a global processing schedule and have some
> issues. Scheduled in Finite and infinite modes both, with same results.
>
> 1. We have jobs that are scheduled and show up on priority dispatch and shop
> loads, but are not visible on scheduling boards until we do a load level
> process. Then they pop in.
> 2. Those jobs that pop in, if you look at job change logs, it does not show
>them
>
> being part of the process.
> 3. Looking at the scheduling logs for those same jobs, the one constant in all

> that noise, is that they all had to 'bounce' becasue they could not schedule
> backwards and make the date.
>
> Thanks
> Â Melissa Hietala
> UMC, Inc.
> melissah@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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Did you by any chance get any special scheduling engine file from Epicor?
Epicor\mfgsys803\server\es\schedEngine.r


Thanks
Melissa Hietala
UMC, Inc.
melissah@...




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From: melissa hietala <kevmel822@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 10:26:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: .409C Scheduling problem- Looking for some Guru help

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Yes we do schedule right away. The problem seems to be with the process
backwards scheduling and then needing to 'bounce' to forward scheduling.
Have you been on 409C long?
 Melissa Hietala
UMC, Inc.
melissah@...

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From: Monte <monte.tomerlin@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 8:32:58 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: .409C Scheduling problem- Looking for some Guru help

Â
At the time of Releasing the Job, do you immediately run any form of manual
scheduling. I ask only because that is my practice and I have never experienced
your outcome.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, melissa hietala <kevmel822@...> wrote:
>
> Since upgrading to .409C we ran a global processing schedule and have some
> issues. Scheduled in Finite and infinite modes both, with same results.
>
> 1. We have jobs that are scheduled and show up on priority dispatch and shop
> loads, but are not visible on scheduling boards until we do a load level
> process. Then they pop in.
> 2. Those jobs that pop in, if you look at job change logs, it does not show
>them
>
> being part of the process.
> 3. Looking at the scheduling logs for those same jobs, the one constant in all


> that noise, is that they all had to 'bounce' becasue they could not schedule
> backwards and make the date.
>
> Thanks
> Â Melissa Hietala
> UMC, Inc.
> melissah@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Manually scheduling the job after release in order to get 'proper'
results from the scheduling system is not necessary, by design. I am at
409a so I cannot speak to undocumented features specific to 409c, but I
can say that it isn't necessary to do that under normal circumstances..
do you have any finite horizons set at the company, or plant level?
Also look to the resource group/resources for finite horizons as well.



I assume since you have infinitely scheduled jobs bouncing that you have
prevent scheduling before today checked?



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Monte
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 8:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: .409C Scheduling problem- Looking for some Guru
help





At the time of Releasing the Job, do you immediately run any form of
manual scheduling. I ask only because that is my practice and I have
never experienced your outcome.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
melissa hietala <kevmel822@...> wrote:
>
> Since upgrading to .409C we ran a global processing schedule and have
some
> issues. Scheduled in Finite and infinite modes both, with same
results.
>
> 1. We have jobs that are scheduled and show up on priority dispatch
and shop
> loads, but are not visible on scheduling boards until we do a load
level
> process. Then they pop in.
> 2. Those jobs that pop in, if you look at job change logs, it does not
show them
> being part of the process.
> 3. Looking at the scheduling logs for those same jobs, the one
constant in all
> that noise, is that they all had to 'bounce' becasue they could not
schedule
> backwards and make the date.
>
> Thanks
> Melissa Hietala
> UMC, Inc.
> melissah@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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