Auto login MES users

system · January 7, 2008, 9:48am

Bill,

Here's an easy way to do it in a mixed environment (where there are
regular Vantage users and MES users on the same server).

Copy the default.mfgsys file to MES.default.mfgsys

make the necessary auto-login edits (described in Scott's email below)
and save to the new file.

On each MES users Windows Environment tab (located in Active Direcotry
Users and Computers) have them run the following command:

<drive:>\client803\mfgsys -MES /config=MES.default.mfgsys

This will tell MES users to launch the MES using your new config file.
They will then still need to login with their employee ID, but this
should eliminate the need for them to put in a username and password
everytime they launch Vantage.

Hope this helps.

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

312.533.4033 x8039

jason@... <blocked::mailto:jason@...>

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of hoomail4me
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Auto login MES users

In terminal services all users are using the same default.mfgsys file.

Bill

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Scott Litzau" <scott.litzau@...> wrote:

>
> Instead of using Single Sign-on. Edit the default.mfgsys file on the

MES

> unit and statically put in the Username and Password you wish the

MES Unit

> to use. Then when you run MES it will automatically sign in as that

user. I

> have seven different MES stations and I set up a user for each one,

MES1-7.

> This way in Admin Tools I can see which station is which when

looking at the

> sessions in case I need to delete a session.
>
> I do not use Terminal Services so I actually have mine set up to
> automatically log into Windows if the system is rebooted and then

have the

> MES program in the Startup Folder which start and automatically logs

in.

>
> Scott
>

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system · January 2, 2008, 10:22pm

All of our MES users use that same Windows and Vantage logon. Does
anyone know of a way to automate the login of an MES user so they
don't need to remmeber a password?

Note: All of our users access Vantage 8 through terminal services so I
cannot see how I can use the "SingleSignOn value="true" of the config
file. It would apply to all users.

Thanks,

Bill

system · January 2, 2008, 11:39pm

If auto login will be truly of value to your company (based on some cost/benefit analysis), it seems you can either cough up the dough for a sufficient (presumably small - like 1-3) PCs or set up a 2nd terminal server for MES users.

Either should allow you to set up the config files for singlesignon=true for these specific user cases.

Question though: How will single sign on for MES users really help?

My understanding is that MES takes a single user login (that if I recall correctly, is an MES provided default user) and then, within MES, different employees (set up in Vantage) still have to 'clock in' to report activity.

Are all of your MES users going to do activity reporting under a single (or small few - like 2-4) role oriented vantage 'employee' entities?

If not, I don't understand the potential benefit.

Am I missing something? My understanding of it might be flawed so I'd also appreciate any related real world experiences from anyone in the group that might clarify the nuances of this aspect of MES better (for both Bill, myself, and perhaps others).

Thanks

Rob Brown

hoomail4me <hoomail4me@...> wrote:
All of our MES users use that same Windows and Vantage logon. Does
anyone know of a way to automate the login of an MES user so they
don't need to remmeber a password?

Note: All of our users access Vantage 8 through terminal services so I
cannot see how I can use the "SingleSignOn value="true" of the config
file. It would apply to all users.

Thanks,

Bill

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system · January 3, 2008, 9:20am

Instead of using Single Sign-on. Edit the default.mfgsys file on the MES
unit and statically put in the Username and Password you wish the MES Unit
to use. Then when you run MES it will automatically sign in as that user. I
have seven different MES stations and I set up a user for each one, MES1-7.
This way in Admin Tools I can see which station is which when looking at the
sessions in case I need to delete a session.

I do not use Terminal Services so I actually have mine set up to
automatically log into Windows if the system is rebooted and then have the
MES program in the Startup Folder which start and automatically logs in.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Auto login MES users

If auto login will be truly of value to your company (based on some
cost/benefit analysis), it seems you can either cough up the dough for a
sufficient (presumably small - like 1-3) PCs or set up a 2nd terminal server
for MES users.

Either should allow you to set up the config files for singlesignon=true
for these specific user cases.

Question though: How will single sign on for MES users really help?

My understanding is that MES takes a single user login (that if I recall
correctly, is an MES provided default user) and then, within MES, different
employees (set up in Vantage) still have to 'clock in' to report activity.

Are all of your MES users going to do activity reporting under a single
(or small few - like 2-4) role oriented vantage 'employee' entities?

If not, I don't understand the potential benefit.

Am I missing something? My understanding of it might be flawed so I'd also
appreciate any related real world experiences from anyone in the group that
might clarify the nuances of this aspect of MES better (for both Bill,
myself, and perhaps others).

Thanks

Rob Brown

hoomail4me <hoomail4me@...> wrote:
All of our MES users use that same Windows and Vantage logon. Does
anyone know of a way to automate the login of an MES user so they
don't need to remmeber a password?

Note: All of our users access Vantage 8 through terminal services so I
cannot see how I can use the "SingleSignOn value="true" of the config
file. It would apply to all users.

Thanks,

Bill

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system · January 3, 2008, 9:36am

You can have different config files for the same database. Make a
copy of the default and name it something else like MES. Then make
your changes & set the path for the MES users.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Litzau" <scott.litzau@...>
wrote:

>
> Instead of using Single Sign-on. Edit the default.mfgsys file on

the MES

> unit and statically put in the Username and Password you wish the

MES Unit

> to use. Then when you run MES it will automatically sign in as

that user. I

> have seven different MES stations and I set up a user for each

one, MES1-7.

> This way in Admin Tools I can see which station is which when

looking at the

> sessions in case I need to delete a session.
>
> I do not use Terminal Services so I actually have mine set up to
> automatically log into Windows if the system is rebooted and then

have the

> MES program in the Startup Folder which start and automatically

logs in.

>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Robert Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:40 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Auto login MES users
>
> If auto login will be truly of value to your company (based on some
> cost/benefit analysis), it seems you can either cough up the dough

for a

> sufficient (presumably small - like 1-3) PCs or set up a 2nd

terminal server

> for MES users.
>
> Either should allow you to set up the config files for

singlesignon=true

> for these specific user cases.
>
> Question though: How will single sign on for MES users really

help?

>
> My understanding is that MES takes a single user login (that if

I recall

> correctly, is an MES provided default user) and then, within MES,

different

> employees (set up in Vantage) still have to 'clock in' to report

activity.

>
> Are all of your MES users going to do activity reporting under a

single

> (or small few - like 2-4) role oriented vantage 'employee'

entities?

>
> If not, I don't understand the potential benefit.
>
> Am I missing something? My understanding of it might be flawed

so I'd also

> appreciate any related real world experiences from anyone in the

group that

> might clarify the nuances of this aspect of MES better (for both

Bill,

> myself, and perhaps others).
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob Brown
>
>
> hoomail4me <hoomail4me@...> wrote:
> All of our MES users use that same Windows and Vantage

logon. Does

> anyone know of a way to automate the login of an MES user so they
> don't need to remmeber a password?
>
> Note: All of our users access Vantage 8 through terminal services

so I

> cannot see how I can use the "SingleSignOn value="true" of the

config

> file. It would apply to all users.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with

Yahoo! Search.

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You

must have

> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report

Builder and

> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

system · January 3, 2008, 11:33am

Bill,
My impression of what you are looking for is this...
You have users set up in the system to apply security to MES users (link the
Shop Employee to link to a user account).
Then you are looking to allow these Shop Employees to log into MES using
their "Shop Employee", "ID" and have it apply the security based on their
User account and not require a password after they enter their "ID".
If that is what you are looking for, I am also looking for the same thing.
It exists in 6.1 as a checkbox on the User account "DC Password Req". If
you left the box unchecked, they user was not required to enter a password
(except to set an initial password) when they log into Shop floor (6.1
Version of MES).
If I am correct in what you are looking for, one of us should create an
enhancement request and the other attach themselves to it.
Now as to calling it an enhancement request to request a feature be added
back that existed in the past, that I won't get into. :)
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
hoomail4me
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Auto login MES users

All of our MES users use that same Windows and Vantage logon. Does
anyone know of a way to automate the login of an MES user so they
don't need to remmeber a password?

Note: All of our users access Vantage 8 through terminal services so I
cannot see how I can use the "SingleSignOn value="true" of the config
file. It would apply to all users.

Thanks,

Bill

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system · January 3, 2008, 2:04pm

In addition, you can setup a RDC connection-specific shortcut that MES users launch (THEY RUN MES THROUGH INTO TS) where it's configured it to automatically launch MES and therefore they do not need to do anything other than run the connection shortcut for Terminal Server access.
Carey

To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: scott.litzau@...: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:20:20 -0600Subject: RE: [Vantage] Auto login MES users

Instead of using Single Sign-on. Edit the default.mfgsys file on the MESunit and statically put in the Username and Password you wish the MES Unitto use. Then when you run MES it will automatically sign in as that user. Ihave seven different MES stations and I set up a user for each one, MES1-7.This way in Admin Tools I can see which station is which when looking at thesessions in case I need to delete a session.I do not use Terminal Services so I actually have mine set up toautomatically log into Windows if the system is rebooted and then have theMES program in the Startup Folder which start and automatically logs in.Scott -----Original Message-----From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf OfRobert BrownSent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:40 PMTo: vantage@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Vantage] Auto login MES usersIf auto login will be truly of value to your company (based on somecost/benefit analysis), it seems you can either cough up the dough for asufficient (presumably small - like 1-3) PCs or set up a 2nd terminal serverfor MES users.Either should allow you to set up the config files for singlesignon=truefor these specific user cases. Question though: How will single sign on for MES users really help? My understanding is that MES takes a single user login (that if I recallcorrectly, is an MES provided default user) and then, within MES, differentemployees (set up in Vantage) still have to 'clock in' to report activity.Are all of your MES users going to do activity reporting under a single(or small few - like 2-4) role oriented vantage 'employee' entities?If not, I don't understand the potential benefit.Am I missing something? My understanding of it might be flawed so I'd alsoappreciate any related real world experiences from anyone in the group thatmight clarify the nuances of this aspect of MES better (for both Bill,myself, and perhaps others).ThanksRob Brownhoomail4me <hoomail4me@...> wrote:All of our MES users use that same Windows and Vantage logon. Doesanyone know of a way to automate the login of an MES user so theydon't need to remmeber a password?Note: All of our users access Vantage 8 through terminal services so Icannot see how I can use the "SingleSignOn value="true" of the configfile. It would apply to all users.Thanks,Bill ---------------------------------Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must havealready linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder andCrystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/. (2) To search through old msg's goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links Yahoo! Groups Links

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system · January 5, 2008, 11:41am

Yes, I don't want the password requirement for MES user.

Bill

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Hoyt" <aaron.hoyt@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> My impression of what you are looking for is this...
> You have users set up in the system to apply security to MES users
(link the
> Shop Employee to link to a user account).
> Then you are looking to allow these Shop Employees to log into MES using
> their "Shop Employee", "ID" and have it apply the security based on
their
> User account and not require a password after they enter their "ID".
> If that is what you are looking for, I am also looking for the same
thing.
> It exists in 6.1 as a checkbox on the User account "DC Password
Req". If
> you left the box unchecked, they user was not required to enter a
password
> (except to set an initial password) when they log into Shop floor (6.1
> Version of MES).
> If I am correct in what you are looking for, one of us should create an
> enhancement request and the other attach themselves to it.
> Now as to calling it an enhancement request to request a feature be
added
> back that existed in the past, that I won't get into. :)
> Aaron Hoyt
> Vantage Plastics

system · January 5, 2008, 11:55am

Michael, now why didn't I think of that - staring me right in the face!

Providing the correct username and password to MES users you would
think would be a non-issue but in a manufacturing environment with 100
MES users, some with no-computer experience, some with language
barriers, an auto logon is the way to go.

Thanks to all for your input...

Bill

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:

>
> You can have different config files for the same database. Make a
> copy of the default and name it something else like MES. Then make
> your changes & set the path for the MES users.
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Litzau" <scott.litzau@>

system · January 5, 2008, 11:57am

In terminal services all users are using the same default.mfgsys file.

Bill

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Litzau" <scott.litzau@...> wrote:
>
> Instead of using Single Sign-on. Edit the default.mfgsys file on the MES
> unit and statically put in the Username and Password you wish the
MES Unit
> to use. Then when you run MES it will automatically sign in as that
user. I
> have seven different MES stations and I set up a user for each one,
MES1-7.
> This way in Admin Tools I can see which station is which when
looking at the
> sessions in case I need to delete a session.
>
> I do not use Terminal Services so I actually have mine set up to
> automatically log into Windows if the system is rebooted and then
have the
> MES program in the Startup Folder which start and automatically logs in.
>
> Scott
>