Job Entry -> Operation -> 'Final Operation' check box, what's it

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Correction Stan...

Sometime in 8.0.808+ to current (8.03.404B), Epicor changed/broke the
logic for Candidate. I logged this under call #1040109PSC. But all
they did is wrote up an SCR# 46614 for the fact that the help file
was incorrect. They still have not fixed the logic...and
unfortunately I gave up!

When in Job Closing (completion), if you click on the Job button and
choose Job Filter = Candidate, it pulls jobs where the last operation
under assembly 0 is marked complete.

It used to pull if either the last operation under assembly 0 was
marked complete OR the operation marked as FINAL under assembly 0 was
marked complete.

I had to write a BAQ/dashboard for this "issue":
for each JobHead where (JobHead.Candidate = no AND
JobHead.JobComplete = false AND JobHead.JobEngineered = true AND
JobHead.JobReleased = true AND JobHead.QtyCompleted >=
JobHead.ProdQty) no-lock by JobHead.Company Desc by JobHead.JobNum
Desc.

Thanks
Patty Buechler
UV Color

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stan Chmura" <schmura@...> wrote:
>
> The final operation will make the job a candidate (for
completion/closing)
> when the quantity entered on that operation meets or exceeds the
production
> quantity for the job. The purpose of the check box is so that if
there is
> an operation (involving indirect labor; say packaging for example)
that
> comes after the job is otherwise complete, then the job becomes a
candidate
> for closing on completion of the operation marked as last operation
even
> though there is an operation after the "final" operation. If left
> unchecked, the highest Operation Sequence acts as the final by
default.
> This should have no bearing on the quantities completed on your
subcontract
> operation. That quantity typically is loaded from quantity passed
in
> Inspection Processing or PO receipt.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> clive.1972
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:06 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Job Entry -> Operation -> 'Final Operation'
check box,
> what's it's purpose ?.
>
> Before we went live at the start of 2008 with Vantage the check
> box 'Final Operation' on an operation on a job was not something
were
> were made aware of in any training.
>
> I'm very intrigued as to what the intended purpose of it is ?.
Right
> now it's something that we never check, even if a job has only one
> operation should we be checking this box as a matter of course ?.
>
> What brought this to light is that at the moment, since upgrading
from
> 8.03.305i to .404, when we complete a sub-contract job 'qty
completed'
> is 0.00 :(
>
> We've got no idea why this is happening ?. As it's a sub-contract
job
> we're not entering any labor against it, any internal jobs do have
> labor entered against them and they do have a 'qty completed' once
the
> job is marked as complete.
>
> Thanks :)
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Before we went live at the start of 2008 with Vantage the check
box 'Final Operation' on an operation on a job was not something were
were made aware of in any training.

I'm very intrigued as to what the intended purpose of it is ?. Right
now it's something that we never check, even if a job has only one
operation should we be checking this box as a matter of course ?.

What brought this to light is that at the moment, since upgrading from
8.03.305i to .404, when we complete a sub-contract job 'qty completed'
is 0.00 :(

We've got no idea why this is happening ?. As it's a sub-contract job
we're not entering any labor against it, any internal jobs do have
labor entered against them and they do have a 'qty completed' once the
job is marked as complete.

Thanks :)
3
The final op check box is what job costs are calculated against. If the
op had it checked it will divide total costs by the quantity completed
on that op, obviously giving you your unit price.



It may do other things too, but this I know it does.



Paul



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of clive.1972
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Entry -> Operation -> 'Final Operation' check
box, what's it's purpose ?.



Before we went live at the start of 2008 with Vantage the check
box 'Final Operation' on an operation on a job was not something were
were made aware of in any training.

I'm very intrigued as to what the intended purpose of it is ?. Right
now it's something that we never check, even if a job has only one
operation should we be checking this box as a matter of course ?.

What brought this to light is that at the moment, since upgrading from
8.03.305i to .404, when we complete a sub-contract job 'qty completed'
is 0.00 :(

We've got no idea why this is happening ?. As it's a sub-contract job
we're not entering any labor against it, any internal jobs do have
labor entered against them and they do have a 'qty completed' once the
job is marked as complete.

Thanks :)





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The final operation will make the job a candidate (for completion/closing)
when the quantity entered on that operation meets or exceeds the production
quantity for the job. The purpose of the check box is so that if there is
an operation (involving indirect labor; say packaging for example) that
comes after the job is otherwise complete, then the job becomes a candidate
for closing on completion of the operation marked as last operation even
though there is an operation after the "final" operation. If left
unchecked, the highest Operation Sequence acts as the final by default.
This should have no bearing on the quantities completed on your subcontract
operation. That quantity typically is loaded from quantity passed in
Inspection Processing or PO receipt.





_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
clive.1972
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Job Entry -> Operation -> 'Final Operation' check box,
what's it's purpose ?.

Before we went live at the start of 2008 with Vantage the check
box 'Final Operation' on an operation on a job was not something were
were made aware of in any training.

I'm very intrigued as to what the intended purpose of it is ?. Right
now it's something that we never check, even if a job has only one
operation should we be checking this box as a matter of course ?.

What brought this to light is that at the moment, since upgrading from
8.03.305i to .404, when we complete a sub-contract job 'qty completed'
is 0.00 :(

We've got no idea why this is happening ?. As it's a sub-contract job
we're not entering any labor against it, any internal jobs do have
labor entered against them and they do have a 'qty completed' once the
job is marked as complete.

Thanks :)



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When shipping to subcontract - we go into Subcontract Shipment
Entry - and enter the info for shipment to subcontract - then when
we receive back - it is received in against that job and opertion -
this will update the qty in/out for that sequence on the job and
should be completed as received in. We had many errors in not using
proper job numbers and seq numbers and are in process of
straightening that all out.
>
> The final operation will make the job a candidate (for
completion/closing)
> when the quantity entered on that operation meets or exceeds the
production
> quantity for the job. The purpose of the check box is so that if
there is
> an operation (involving indirect labor; say packaging for example)
that
> comes after the job is otherwise complete, then the job becomes a
candidate
> for closing on completion of the operation marked as last
operation even
> though there is an operation after the "final" operation. If left
> unchecked, the highest Operation Sequence acts as the final by
default.
> This should have no bearing on the quantities completed on your
subcontract
> operation. That quantity typically is loaded from quantity passed
in
> Inspection Processing or PO receipt.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> clive.1972
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:06 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Job Entry -> Operation -> 'Final Operation'
check box,
> what's it's purpose ?.
>
> Before we went live at the start of 2008 with Vantage the check
> box 'Final Operation' on an operation on a job was not something
were
> were made aware of in any training.
>
> I'm very intrigued as to what the intended purpose of it is ?.
Right
> now it's something that we never check, even if a job has only one
> operation should we be checking this box as a matter of course ?.
>
> What brought this to light is that at the moment, since upgrading
from
> 8.03.305i to .404, when we complete a sub-contract job 'qty
completed'
> is 0.00 :(
>
> We've got no idea why this is happening ?. As it's a sub-contract
job
> we're not entering any labor against it, any internal jobs do have
> labor entered against them and they do have a 'qty completed' once
the
> job is marked as complete.
>
> Thanks :)
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>