Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

The only problem with preprinted is that you have to then mail them, or manually fax it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


That's how we do it -- T&C is preprinted on the back of SO Ack and all A/R
invoices.
Lydia
IS Administrator
Canyon Engineering Products
661-294-0084 x115



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


As a second thought, since this seems to be a challenging problem.
PrePrint your terms then use those to print your acknowlegements.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Depending on your hardware capabilities, two sided print.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Rigsbee [mailto:Cherylr@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

This is also what we have done. It goes with every order.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan C Spoerl [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


I have placed our terms and conditions in the Sales Acknowledgement. It
prints as a separate page.

Daniel C. Spoerl
Estimator/MIS Manager
Toledo Metal Spinning Co.
Phone: (419) 535-5931 ext. 203
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-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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Judy,
we are using crystal reports to attach an OLE object (word document) to
the crystal form. The problem we had
was that if you printed the Crystal form, you would always get the TC along
with it. We ended up adding a VBform checkbox
where if checked, the TC page will not print. But the default is that the
TC's will ride along with our crystal report form. We
use TC's for Sales Order Acknowledgement, Quote, and Sales Invoices.


_____

From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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Thanks, Dick....our TC was formerly a word document that we enclosed in
the e-mail with the Vantage acknowledgement. Yesterday I converted the
Crystal form to have the TC print as the last page....but you're right,
every time you print you have that extra page trailing along.

Maybe it's never come up for anyone else...but what would you do if a
customer said they never received the TC? Would you have anything to
prove you sent it, whether by fax, e-mail or regular mail?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: PLAMAN DICK [mailto:dick.plaman@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:25 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Judy,
we are using crystal reports to attach an OLE object (word document)
to
the crystal form. The problem we had
was that if you printed the Crystal form, you would always get the TC
along
with it. We ended up adding a VBform checkbox
where if checked, the TC page will not print. But the default is that
the
TC's will ride along with our crystal report form. We
use TC's for Sales Order Acknowledgement, Quote, and Sales Invoices.


_____

From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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You can always send via certified mail with signature receipt.

Or request an email confirmation that they have indeed received the T&C (then save the email). If they state that they haven't received then resend the document and keep requesting acknowledgement until they comply. You could always hold shipment of parts until they comply.

Resistance is futile...

Mike Lowe
Connor Mfg. Svcs.



-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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We document faxes sent from time to time with a dummy number added to the
phone list on our canon copier/fax. When you want confirmation that the fax
was sent add the dummy number to the send list. The fax is set up to print
an error report when there is a send failure. The report shows the proof
that the fax was sent to the first number and failed on the second number
(the fake one). We mostly do this when we send out things for quoting thou,
gives you a nice list of all the numbers you sent it to, date time etc...

Hope this helps.

Patrick Winter


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


You can always send via certified mail with signature receipt.

Or request an email confirmation that they have indeed received the T&C
(then save the email). If they state that they haven't received then resend
the document and keep requesting acknowledgement until they comply. You
could always hold shipment of parts until they comply.

Resistance is futile...

Mike Lowe
Connor Mfg. Svcs.



-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you sent
it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions with
your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used to prove
the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send them via
e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document Association, it
would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the order...inasmuch as it
doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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I have placed our terms and conditions in the Sales Acknowledgement. It
prints as a separate page.

Daniel C. Spoerl
Estimator/MIS Manager
Toledo Metal Spinning Co.
Phone: (419) 535-5931 ext. 203
Fax: (419) 535-0565
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-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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This is also what we have done. It goes with every order.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan C Spoerl [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


I have placed our terms and conditions in the Sales Acknowledgement. It
prints as a separate page.

Daniel C. Spoerl
Estimator/MIS Manager
Toledo Metal Spinning Co.
Phone: (419) 535-5931 ext. 203
Fax: (419) 535-0565
Personal E-fax: (707) 897-1708
Email: dans@...
WebSite: http://www.toledometalspinning.com

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legally privileged and is information intended only for the use of the
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communication in error, please delete the original from your system,
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cover any loss or damage caused by software viruses.



-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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Depending on your hardware capabilities, two sided print.

Shirley Graver
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Rubber Associates Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Rigsbee [mailto:Cherylr@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

This is also what we have done. It goes with every order.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan C Spoerl [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


I have placed our terms and conditions in the Sales Acknowledgement. It
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Daniel C. Spoerl
Estimator/MIS Manager
Toledo Metal Spinning Co.
Phone: (419) 535-5931 ext. 203
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-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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As a second thought, since this seems to be a challenging problem.
PrePrint your terms then use those to print your acknowlegements.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Depending on your hardware capabilities, two sided print.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Rigsbee [mailto:Cherylr@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

This is also what we have done. It goes with every order.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan C Spoerl [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


I have placed our terms and conditions in the Sales Acknowledgement. It
prints as a separate page.

Daniel C. Spoerl
Estimator/MIS Manager
Toledo Metal Spinning Co.
Phone: (419) 535-5931 ext. 203
Fax: (419) 535-0565
Personal E-fax: (707) 897-1708
Email: dans@...
WebSite: http://www.toledometalspinning.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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Not meaning to continue to bother all of you with this subject, but does
anyone post their Terms and Conditions on their website and then just
note on their Sales Order Acknowledgement that they can be viewed at
xxxxx?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: PLAMAN DICK [mailto:dick.plaman@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:25 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Judy,
we are using crystal reports to attach an OLE object (word document)
to
the crystal form. The problem we had
was that if you printed the Crystal form, you would always get the TC
along
with it. We ended up adding a VBform checkbox
where if checked, the TC page will not print. But the default is that
the
TC's will ride along with our crystal report form. We
use TC's for Sales Order Acknowledgement, Quote, and Sales Invoices.


_____

From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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I don’t know what the legal ramifications are but it doesn’t sound
like a bad Idea. Go one step further, put a button for them to click to
download a PDF of it.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Not meaning to continue to bother all of you with this subject, but does
anyone post their Terms and Conditions on their website and then just
note on their Sales Order Acknowledgement that they can be viewed at
xxxxx?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: PLAMAN DICK [mailto:dick.plaman@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:25 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Judy,
we are using crystal reports to attach an OLE object (word document)
to
the crystal form. The problem we had
was that if you printed the Crystal form, you would always get the TC
along
with it. We ended up adding a VBform checkbox
where if checked, the TC page will not print. But the default is that
the
TC's will ride along with our crystal report form. We
use TC's for Sales Order Acknowledgement, Quote, and Sales Invoices.


_____

From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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That's how we do it -- T&C is preprinted on the back of SO Ack and all A/R
invoices.
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IS Administrator
Canyon Engineering Products
661-294-0084 x115



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


As a second thought, since this seems to be a challenging problem.
PrePrint your terms then use those to print your acknowlegements.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Depending on your hardware capabilities, two sided print.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Rigsbee [mailto:Cherylr@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

This is also what we have done. It goes with every order.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan C Spoerl [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


I have placed our terms and conditions in the Sales Acknowledgement. It
prints as a separate page.

Daniel C. Spoerl
Estimator/MIS Manager
Toledo Metal Spinning Co.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:30 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions

Absolutely, that's what we do to....but what if you had to PROVE you
sent it?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


He have our TandC preprinted on our Sales Orders when sent. Whenever we
send electronically we also send a hard copy via snail mail.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Terms and Conditions


Do any of you know your procedure for sending your Terms and Conditions
with your Sales Order Acknowledgement and what method, if any, is used
to prove the Terms and Conditions were sent...specifically when you send
them via e-mail or regular mail? If the Sales Orders had Document
Association, it would be easy to keep a copy of the e-mail with the
order...inasmuch as it doesn't, what do you do?

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com




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