[OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

system · January 13, 2003, 1:52pm

Thanks,
I was able to recover all the files he could remember to have me copy off using NTFSDOS. A great free tool. I put it on a Win98 boot disk (to get DOS) and ran it and it gave me DOS prompt access to the NTFS drive with no problem at all. So I copied the needed files to floppies and all was well after I scrubbed the drive and reloaded Win2K and all his apps. Only hitch was a couple files he had forgotten that were stored in application specific folders (Visio and a QC stats program).
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Tisone [mailto:dtisone@...]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

If you really need the files then pull the drive out and put it into
another W2K system as a second hard drive. Pull the data off the drive
and reinstall the OS correctly. You may have to take control of the
second hard drive to get access to the files. This should not be a
problem if you log in as Admin

Dan Tisone
IS / IT Consultant
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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

I'm off to try the Recovery Console. If that does not work, does anyone
out there have experience with a product called ERD Commander? Looks
like a very powerful tool to have around and claims to be able to re-set
just about anything on an unbootable (but not disk corrupt) Win2K
system. If I get really stuck it might be worth the $399. I have also
downloaded NTFSDOS (free) to maybe be able to recover user files before
a reformat/reinstall. But 1st I'll see if the RC route works.
Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

Bad boy. If you changed permissions on the boot, kernel and system
files, then the LSA cannot read them on system startup. Just be glad
it wasn't the server <g>. Sometimes the Recovery Console can help
you change them back (for now, set permissions to "Everyone"). If not,
Recovery Installation ("Repair boot files") might work.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

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system · January 9, 2003, 1:11pm

We are slowly converting to Windows 2000 (desktop and servers). Over the weekend we replaced our aging NT-SBS server with a new Win2K/Exchange2K box and had to create a new domain. So every PC in the place had to be repointed to login to the new domain. Plus all the file sharing and printer sharing issues that have kept me running this week.

Now I am stuck on one particuler user. One of my few Win2K desktop people. When I added him to the new domain all his documents in MyDocuments were over on his old username on his PC so he moved them to the new one (using that PC's Administrator account). Now he can not open any Office-2000 file (Word, Excel) when logged in as his regular account name. The only error message is (for instance), "Excel has caused errors, this application will be temrinated. A log file will be created.". Outlook bombs (completely locks up PC) every 5 minutes. I completely uninstalled and installed Office-2000 but that did not help. One extra clue; he can open the documents fine logged in as Administrator or even as his old username on that PC only. I tried changing his network username on the PC to be an Administrator (from PowerUser) with no luck.

Is there some domain name related permissions issue built in to his Office files that prevent him from accessing them? . Could there be a SID issue with the new user account that I set up? Is there some setting I can make on everything in his MyDocuments folder to make them OK for him to use? Where would the log file it created on the error be loacted? Any hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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system · January 9, 2003, 1:26pm

Yep...I know this one well. This is a typical problem when moving users
resources from one domain to another

The problem is that the files still have the permissions for the old
user. Move the files from the old profile to the new profile and "reset
permissions on all child objects..." on the new profile name. That will
clear everything up

Dan Tisone
IS / IT Consultant
dan.tisone@...
(949) 440-3685 x148
Cel (714) 227-4173

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

We are slowly converting to Windows 2000 (desktop and servers). Over
the weekend we replaced our aging NT-SBS server with a new
Win2K/Exchange2K box and had to create a new domain. So every PC in the
place had to be repointed to login to the new domain. Plus all the file
sharing and printer sharing issues that have kept me running this week.

Now I am stuck on one particuler user. One of my few Win2K desktop
people. When I added him to the new domain all his documents in
MyDocuments were over on his old username on his PC so he moved them to
the new one (using that PC's Administrator account). Now he can not
open any Office-2000 file (Word, Excel) when logged in as his regular
account name. The only error message is (for instance), "Excel has
caused errors, this application will be temrinated. A log file will be
created.". Outlook bombs (completely locks up PC) every 5 minutes. I
completely uninstalled and installed Office-2000 but that did not help.
One extra clue; he can open the documents fine logged in as
Administrator or even as his old username on that PC only. I tried
changing his network username on the PC to be an Administrator (from
PowerUser) with no luck.

Is there some domain name related permissions issue built in to his
Office files that prevent him from accessing them? . Could there be a
SID issue with the new user account that I set up? Is there some
setting I can make on everything in his MyDocuments folder to make them
OK for him to use? Where would the log file it created on the error be
loacted? Any hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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system · January 9, 2003, 2:24pm

Thanks, sounds great but how do you set the child permissions? Right Clicking the top folder and selecting Properties (as suggested in Help) does not offer a Security tab. Just Sharing. As far as I can tell there is no way to change the permissions without the Security tab. I have tried logging in to every profile on the PC including Administrator to see if one would allow seting security.

Sorry to be such a Win2K novice. As usual all the budget allows for is on-line OJT classes at the College of Hardknocks. That which frustrates most sitcks in memory the best.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Tisone [mailto:dtisone@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Yep...I know this one well. This is a typical problem when moving users
resources from one domain to another

The problem is that the files still have the permissions for the old
user. Move the files from the old profile to the new profile and "reset
permissions on all child objects..." on the new profile name. That will
clear everything up

Dan Tisone
IS / IT Consultant
dan.tisone@...
(949) 440-3685 x148
Cel (714) 227-4173

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

We are slowly converting to Windows 2000 (desktop and servers). Over
the weekend we replaced our aging NT-SBS server with a new
Win2K/Exchange2K box and had to create a new domain. So every PC in the
place had to be repointed to login to the new domain. Plus all the file
sharing and printer sharing issues that have kept me running this week.

Now I am stuck on one particuler user. One of my few Win2K desktop
people. When I added him to the new domain all his documents in
MyDocuments were over on his old username on his PC so he moved them to
the new one (using that PC's Administrator account). Now he can not
open any Office-2000 file (Word, Excel) when logged in as his regular
account name. The only error message is (for instance), "Excel has
caused errors, this application will be temrinated. A log file will be
created.". Outlook bombs (completely locks up PC) every 5 minutes. I
completely uninstalled and installed Office-2000 but that did not help.
One extra clue; he can open the documents fine logged in as
Administrator or even as his old username on that PC only. I tried
changing his network username on the PC to be an Administrator (from
PowerUser) with no luck.

Is there some domain name related permissions issue built in to his
Office files that prevent him from accessing them? . Could there be a
SID issue with the new user account that I set up? Is there some
setting I can make on everything in his MyDocuments folder to make them
OK for him to use? Where would the log file it created on the error be
loacted? Any hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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system · January 9, 2003, 3:30pm

Since you have no security tab I would assume that the system is running
on FAT32 instead of NTFS.

The other possibility I just thought of is that you need to setup the
person as a user on the new domain (I usually give Power Users rights).
This can be done from Users option in the Control Panel. If you did not
setup the user on the workstation, the domain will let the person login
but have no rights to do anything

Dan Tisone
IS / IT Consultant
dan.tisone@...
(949) 440-3685 x148
Cel (714) 227-4173

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:18 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Thanks, sounds great but how do you set the child permissions? Right
Clicking the top folder and selecting Properties (as suggested in Help)
does not offer a Security tab. Just Sharing. As far as I can tell
there is no way to change the permissions without the Security tab. I
have tried logging in to every profile on the PC including
Administrator to see if one would allow seting security.

Sorry to be such a Win2K novice. As usual all the budget allows for is
on-line OJT classes at the College of Hardknocks. That which frustrates
most sitcks in memory the best.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Tisone [mailto:dtisone@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:26 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Yep...I know this one well. This is a typical problem when moving users
resources from one domain to another

The problem is that the files still have the permissions for the old
user. Move the files from the old profile to the new profile and "reset
permissions on all child objects..." on the new profile name. That will
clear everything up

Dan Tisone
IS / IT Consultant
dan.tisone@...
(949) 440-3685 x148
Cel (714) 227-4173

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

We are slowly converting to Windows 2000 (desktop and servers). Over
the weekend we replaced our aging NT-SBS server with a new
Win2K/Exchange2K box and had to create a new domain. So every PC in the
place had to be repointed to login to the new domain. Plus all the file
sharing and printer sharing issues that have kept me running this week.

Now I am stuck on one particuler user. One of my few Win2K desktop
people. When I added him to the new domain all his documents in
MyDocuments were over on his old username on his PC so he moved them to
the new one (using that PC's Administrator account). Now he can not
open any Office-2000 file (Word, Excel) when logged in as his regular
account name. The only error message is (for instance), "Excel has
caused errors, this application will be temrinated. A log file will be
created.". Outlook bombs (completely locks up PC) every 5 minutes. I
completely uninstalled and installed Office-2000 but that did not help.
One extra clue; he can open the documents fine logged in as
Administrator or even as his old username on that PC only. I tried
changing his network username on the PC to be an Administrator (from
PowerUser) with no luck.

Is there some domain name related permissions issue built in to his
Office files that prevent him from accessing them? . Could there be a
SID issue with the new user account that I set up? Is there some
setting I can make on everything in his MyDocuments folder to make them
OK for him to use? Where would the log file it created on the error be
loacted? Any hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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system · January 9, 2003, 4:35pm

If you copy the files (instead of moving) to the new location, they will
take on the permissions of the folder you are copying to. Moving them,
retains the original permissions.

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:06 PM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

We are slowly converting to Windows 2000 (desktop and servers). Over the
weekend we replaced our aging NT-SBS server with a new Win2K/Exchange2K box
and had to create a new domain. So every PC in the place had to be
repointed to login to the new domain. Plus all the file sharing and printer
sharing issues that have kept me running this week.

Now I am stuck on one particuler user. One of my few Win2K desktop people.
When I added him to the new domain all his documents in MyDocuments were
over on his old username on his PC so he moved them to the new one (using
that PC's Administrator account). Now he can not open any Office-2000 file
(Word, Excel) when logged in as his regular account name. The only error
message is (for instance), "Excel has caused errors, this application will
be temrinated. A log file will be created.". Outlook bombs (completely
locks up PC) every 5 minutes. I completely uninstalled and installed
Office-2000 but that did not help. One extra clue; he can open the
documents fine logged in as Administrator or even as his old username on
that PC only. I tried changing his network username on the PC to be an
Administrator (from PowerUser) with no luck.

Is there some domain name related permissions issue built in to his Office
files that prevent him from accessing them? . Could there be a SID issue
with the new user account that I set up? Is there some setting I can make
on everything in his MyDocuments folder to make them OK for him to use?
Where would the log file it created on the error be loacted? Any hints
would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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system · January 9, 2003, 5:48pm

1. Yes, he moved them rather than copying
2. System was set to FAT32 by Micron so I converted it to NTFS and got the Security tab
3. This did not seem to make any difference no matter what I tried
4. Eventually I did something very bad (set whole drive to be owned by him and all files full control) and now the system will not boot at all. Blue screen - system stops just as Windows 2000 starts. I think it might be toast and we are headed for a full reformat & Win2K install.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laroche, Richard [mailto:rlaroche@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:36 PM
To: 'vantage@...'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

If you copy the files (instead of moving) to the new location, they will
take on the permissions of the folder you are copying to. Moving them,
retains the original permissions.

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:06 PM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

We are slowly converting to Windows 2000 (desktop and servers). Over the
weekend we replaced our aging NT-SBS server with a new Win2K/Exchange2K box
and had to create a new domain. So every PC in the place had to be
repointed to login to the new domain. Plus all the file sharing and printer
sharing issues that have kept me running this week.

Now I am stuck on one particuler user. One of my few Win2K desktop people.
When I added him to the new domain all his documents in MyDocuments were
over on his old username on his PC so he moved them to the new one (using
that PC's Administrator account). Now he can not open any Office-2000 file
(Word, Excel) when logged in as his regular account name. The only error
message is (for instance), "Excel has caused errors, this application will
be temrinated. A log file will be created.". Outlook bombs (completely
locks up PC) every 5 minutes. I completely uninstalled and installed
Office-2000 but that did not help. One extra clue; he can open the
documents fine logged in as Administrator or even as his old username on
that PC only. I tried changing his network username on the PC to be an
Administrator (from PowerUser) with no luck.

Is there some domain name related permissions issue built in to his Office
files that prevent him from accessing them? . Could there be a SID issue
with the new user account that I set up? Is there some setting I can make
on everything in his MyDocuments folder to make them OK for him to use?
Where would the log file it created on the error be loacted? Any hints
would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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system · January 9, 2003, 5:58pm

Todd,

Bad boy. If you changed permissions on the boot, kernel and system
files, then the LSA cannot read them on system startup. Just be glad
it wasn't the server <g>. Sometimes the Recovery Console can help
you change them back (for now, set permissions to "Everyone"). If not,
Recovery Installation ("Repair boot files") might work.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

system · January 10, 2003, 11:15am

I'm off to try the Recovery Console. If that does not work, does anyone out there have experience with a product called ERD Commander? Looks like a very powerful tool to have around and claims to be able to re-set just about anything on an unbootable (but not disk corrupt) Win2K system. If I get really stuck it might be worth the $399. I have also downloaded NTFSDOS (free) to maybe be able to recover user files before a reformat/reinstall. But 1st I'll see if the RC route works.
Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

Bad boy. If you changed permissions on the boot, kernel and system
files, then the LSA cannot read them on system startup. Just be glad
it wasn't the server <g>. Sometimes the Recovery Console can help
you change them back (for now, set permissions to "Everyone"). If not,
Recovery Installation ("Repair boot files") might work.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

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system · January 10, 2003, 11:19am

Todd,

ERD Commander is a must-have if your NT/2K/XP population is large
enough, and it should work for your issue. I've used it for similar
problems, and others.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

system · January 10, 2003, 11:36am

I second that. I've used it for years and if it can't fix the problem, then
it can't be fixed.

Ted Kitch
ted@...

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:19 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

ERD Commander is a must-have if your NT/2K/XP population is large
enough, and it should work for your issue. I've used it for similar
problems, and others.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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system · January 10, 2003, 12:00pm

Todd,

Where did you find that for $399? I could use that too.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
Milan OH

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

I'm off to try the Recovery Console. If that does not work, does anyone out
there have experience with a product called ERD Commander? Looks like a
very powerful tool to have around and claims to be able to re-set just about
anything on an unbootable (but not disk corrupt) Win2K system. If I get
really stuck it might be worth the $399. I have also downloaded NTFSDOS
(free) to maybe be able to recover user files before a reformat/reinstall.
But 1st I'll see if the RC route works.
Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

Bad boy. If you changed permissions on the boot, kernel and system
files, then the LSA cannot read them on system startup. Just be glad
it wasn't the server <g>. Sometimes the Recovery Console can help
you change them back (for now, set permissions to "Everyone"). If not,
Recovery Installation ("Repair boot files") might work.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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system · January 10, 2003, 1:14pm

www.sysinternals.com - They have lots of interesting tools. I downloaded the free NTFSDOS and placed it on a Win98 Emergency Boot Disk (it's small) and once booted on the Win2K machine ran it and gained access to the user's files. Copied the recent ones not backed up to floppies so at least he has lost nothing (but time on his PC). ERD Commander has a built in version of Locksmith that allows you to change passwords (such as Administrator) and this alone could be a great tool. With our switch to all Win2K over the course of 2003 (40+ PCs) I think I'm going to have to have it in my "tool kit".

Recovery Console got me back to a bootable system but things were still really messed up so I am reformatting and reloading Win2K from scratch. Much cleaner this way and I've spent enough time on it already.

Thanks to everyone for the afvice and product votes of confidence.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

Where did you find that for $399? I could use that too.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
Milan OH

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

I'm off to try the Recovery Console. If that does not work, does anyone out
there have experience with a product called ERD Commander? Looks like a
very powerful tool to have around and claims to be able to re-set just about
anything on an unbootable (but not disk corrupt) Win2K system. If I get
really stuck it might be worth the $399. I have also downloaded NTFSDOS
(free) to maybe be able to recover user files before a reformat/reinstall.
But 1st I'll see if the RC route works.
Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

Bad boy. If you changed permissions on the boot, kernel and system
files, then the LSA cannot read them on system startup. Just be glad
it wasn't the server <g>. Sometimes the Recovery Console can help
you change them back (for now, set permissions to "Everyone"). If not,
Recovery Installation ("Repair boot files") might work.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
< http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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system · January 13, 2003, 1:40pm

If you really need the files then pull the drive out and put it into
another W2K system as a second hard drive. Pull the data off the drive
and reinstall the OS correctly. You may have to take control of the
second hard drive to get access to the files. This should not be a
problem if you log in as Admin

Dan Tisone
IS / IT Consultant
dan.tisone@...
(949) 440-3685 x148
Cel (714) 227-4173

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

I'm off to try the Recovery Console. If that does not work, does anyone
out there have experience with a product called ERD Commander? Looks
like a very powerful tool to have around and claims to be able to re-set
just about anything on an unbootable (but not disk corrupt) Win2K
system. If I get really stuck it might be worth the $399. I have also
downloaded NTFSDOS (free) to maybe be able to recover user files before
a reformat/reinstall. But 1st I'll see if the RC route works.
Thanks,
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Todd,

Bad boy. If you changed permissions on the boot, kernel and system
files, then the LSA cannot read them on system startup. Just be glad
it wasn't the server <g>. Sometimes the Recovery Console can help
you change them back (for now, set permissions to "Everyone"). If not,
Recovery Installation ("Repair boot files") might work.

have fun,
john

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Windows 2000 Desktop Office File Issues

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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