Wayne is correct! And that is also why we jumped to 5.0 also. BUT! Little
did we know by doing this we gave up cost of scrap information that we were
using for our continuous improvement program. In before 5.0 you could run a
report called Non-Conformance Analysis which gave you the cost of scrap.
When you move to 5.0 the report only looks at discrepant qty it totally
ignores scrap. So now we can no longer use the report. All of our scrap is
scrap and we do not use the discrepant qty. In order to get the information
from that report we would have to use the discrepant qty for all our scrap
and go through the process of dispositioning which takes up useless time
before closing a job. So if anyone out there has a suggestion on how to get
cost of scrap in 5.0 I would be forever indebted.
Kathy Hambleton
Electron Energy Corp
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Scrap Reporting on Operations
At 11:22 AM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
inspector to check over all those scrap parts for any salvageable ones. Of
course, in many cases scrap is scrap and you don't want to devote any more
time to it. So at 5.0 labor entry & data collection have separate fields
for "scrap" and "discrepant" qtys. Until you upgrade, you're stuck with it.
I set up a Ground control macro to simplify clearing out all the unwanted
scrap entries from Inspection Processing. Found that if you run them
through as "passed" it clears out inspection, leaves the scrap qty on the
job (for reporting) and does not change the job's completed quantities or
costs. That doesn't seem entirely logical, but it actually worked nicely
for us.
with. If they're really scrap, try clearing them out as "passed" on a test
database. It will probably have the desired effect. Also, IIRC if you
fail them there's yet another step you'll have to clear out (not sure about
that one - it's been 8+ months since I looked at it.)
-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338
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did we know by doing this we gave up cost of scrap information that we were
using for our continuous improvement program. In before 5.0 you could run a
report called Non-Conformance Analysis which gave you the cost of scrap.
When you move to 5.0 the report only looks at discrepant qty it totally
ignores scrap. So now we can no longer use the report. All of our scrap is
scrap and we do not use the discrepant qty. In order to get the information
from that report we would have to use the discrepant qty for all our scrap
and go through the process of dispositioning which takes up useless time
before closing a job. So if anyone out there has a suggestion on how to get
cost of scrap in 5.0 I would be forever indebted.
Kathy Hambleton
Electron Energy Corp
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Scrap Reporting on Operations
At 11:22 AM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>We are on 4.00.812 (struggling elsewhere to get to 5.2) and I was confused.This was a bad "feature" in 4.0. Epicor assumed you would want an
>It is not a lock but rather the job can not be closed because inspection is
>required. We would rather not have to go into the inspection screen and
>"fail" the scrapped parts if there is a way to not require inspeciton or to
inspector to check over all those scrap parts for any salvageable ones. Of
course, in many cases scrap is scrap and you don't want to devote any more
time to it. So at 5.0 labor entry & data collection have separate fields
for "scrap" and "discrepant" qtys. Until you upgrade, you're stuck with it.
I set up a Ground control macro to simplify clearing out all the unwanted
scrap entries from Inspection Processing. Found that if you run them
through as "passed" it clears out inspection, leaves the scrap qty on the
job (for reporting) and does not change the job's completed quantities or
costs. That doesn't seem entirely logical, but it actually worked nicely
for us.
>If I understand correctly then, there is no other inpact to G/L from makingIf you fail them, you'll have an INS-DMR and G/L transaction to go
>the scapped parts as "failed"?
with. If they're really scrap, try clearing them out as "passed" on a test
database. It will probably have the desired effect. Also, IIRC if you
fail them there's yet another step you'll have to clear out (not sure about
that one - it's been 8+ months since I looked at it.)
-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/