You're welcome! We've got to look out for one another! ;o)
Ian Hogan
Information Systems Manager
Standard Filter Corporation
760-929-8559 or 800-634-5837 (voice) - 760-929-1901 (fax)
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of parch1982
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Tax regions and sales tax codes Vantage 8.03.400D
Ian:
I really appreciate your reply, especially the heads-up on the non-
taxable regions. The assumption that if it is a nontaxable sale then
it is a nonreportable sale is crazy.
Charging the correct sales tax and exempting the right customers has
always been a challenge for our company since it is a very manual
process, subject to "nontax" human interpretation and intervention.
(How many people actually understand charging and reporting sales tax
in over 8,000 taxing jurisdictions?) Thank you for the comments
regarding the customizations and locking down tax information. We
are definitely looking for ways to use Vantage to enhance our
compliance with exempting, taxing and reporting.
You were a big help and I sure do appreciate you taking the time to
post.
Janet
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Ian Hogan
Information Systems Manager
Standard Filter Corporation
760-929-8559 or 800-634-5837 (voice) - 760-929-1901 (fax)
________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of parch1982
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Tax regions and sales tax codes Vantage 8.03.400D
Ian:
I really appreciate your reply, especially the heads-up on the non-
taxable regions. The assumption that if it is a nontaxable sale then
it is a nonreportable sale is crazy.
Charging the correct sales tax and exempting the right customers has
always been a challenge for our company since it is a very manual
process, subject to "nontax" human interpretation and intervention.
(How many people actually understand charging and reporting sales tax
in over 8,000 taxing jurisdictions?) Thank you for the comments
regarding the customizations and locking down tax information. We
are definitely looking for ways to use Vantage to enhance our
compliance with exempting, taxing and reporting.
You were a big help and I sure do appreciate you taking the time to
post.
Janet
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Hogan" <ianhogan@...> wrote:
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> Sure thing Janet. We set them up as we went along. If you can nail
> a good business process whereby those in accounting or taxcompliance
> are prompted to go in and establish these accounts, adding as you gowould
> could work fine (necessary anyway when you have a new tax item). I
> suggest making some customizations to your customer maintenancedialog
> requiring this tax profile information. It is possible to add a newall
> customer, create and order, a job, build product, ship and invoice
> without involving taxability. So if you have a customer who isotherwise
> taxable and they are not set up correctly from the beginning tohave tax
> assessed, you will be able to post a sale to them without any taxrecord
> or trail. V8 does not require any tax items by default, it providesthe
> ability, but rules are not coded into the app. Also, beware thatyou can
> reassign and override tax assignments and taxability at the orderand
> invoice level. That is, those who do your orders or invoicing canof
> incorrectly change tax types. Make customizations to lock users out
> this (by hiding filds on the dialogs worked for us). So that whenthe
> tax profile is set for the customer (by someone who knows how to doit
> ;o) it cannot be inadvertantly overridden anywhere down the line.types.
> Further, make sure you set up non-taxable regions and sales tax
> Everywhere I know of you have to report to tax authorities not onlythe
> sales and taxes you asses, but the sales which are exempt from taxessale
> (Foreign Sales, Government, Interstate, etc.). In V8 if you make a
> to a customer who has no tax profile, that sale will not show up onany
> standard tax reports at all. V8 assumes that if it is not assigneda tax
> profile that it is not taxable and that since it is not taxable itmust
> not be reportable. I think that is a major oversight and makes nosense
> to anyone who has ever had to file a state sales tax return. Wecreated
> tax regions and sales tax types and assigned every customer to onesale to
> whether they were a taxable sale within California or an exempt
> Latin America. That way everything shows up on our tax reports andthose
> that have tax assessed show up with their tax calcs and those exemptzero. As
> show up as well, only their taxable amounts and tax amounts are
> far as our invoices go, the tax breakdown prints on them bydefault, so
> we simply added logic at the Crystal level to preclude the sectionfrom
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> Best of luck to you!
>
>
> Ian Hogan
> Information Systems Manager
> Standard Filter Corporation
> 760-929-8559 or 800-634-5837 (voice) - 760-929-1901 (fax)
>
>
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> Of parch19828.03.400D
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> Thank you for your quick reply. I'm giving the method that you
> described a try.
>
> Did you set every possible region up or only the ones that you had
> prior taxable sales? I am asking this because we could have CA - 58
> regions; for GA - 159 regions; for OH - 92 regions; for NY - 77
> regions etc. So, we have the potential to have over 400 tax
> regions. I'm wondering how managable this will be in a drop down
> list for picking tax regions when setting up new customers (plus
> trying to figure out how to code them when we convert customer
> data).
>
> Again, thanks for your quick reply.
>
> Janet Lemon
> Business System Analyst
> Total Plastics, Inc.
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> Hogan" <ianhogan@> wrote:and
> >
> > I don't know if this will help, but we too are in CA and have both
> > county and district taxes to contend with. Basically in V8 you
> create
> > your Sales Tax items (the taxes you need to asses and report on)
> > then Tax Regions (the areas Sales Tax items apply to) and withinTax
> > Regions you select which Sales Tax items are applicable. ForSales
> example in
> > California for say Mariposa County there is a Mariposa County
> Taxare
> > and also a district tax. The way we have done it is to create CA -
> > Mariposa County as the Tax Region and then Mariposa County, CA
> Sales Tax
> > (with the current tax rate) as the first Sales Tax item and then
> > Mariposa County, CA District Tax as the second Sales Tax item, so
> in the
> > Tax Region view under the Tax Region CA - Mariposa County there
> twoinvoice.
> > associated Sales Tax items; Mariposa County, CA Sales Tax and
> Mariposa
> > County, CA District Tax. Each tax type calculates when you
> We<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > have never used Avalara, only V8.
> >
> > Ian Hogan
> > Information Systems Manager
> > Standard Filter Corporation
> > 760-929-8559 or 800-634-5837 (voice) - 760-929-1901 (fax)
> >
> >
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> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:07 AM
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> > Subject: [Vantage] Tax regions and sales tax codes Vantage8.03.400D
> >county
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> >
> > I'm looking for a little insight on how to set up tax regions and
> sales
> > tax codes. We have several states that require reporting by
> > and/or city jurisdictions (CA, OH, GA, NY). Several jurisdictionscodes
> have
> > the same rates; however, reporting is at the local level, so the
> sales
> > and tax still need to be broken out by local reporting
> jurisdiction.
> >
> > We'd like to be able to set up the tax regions and sales tax
> sotax
> > that the correct rate is used to tax the invoice and the sales
> > reports will be useful in reporting at the county (as well as[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > level.
> >
> > We are in the testing environment, going live later in 2008. The
> > Avalara tax connect program looks like a perfect solution to this
> > problem; however, is not on in our initial Go Live plan.
> >
> > I'd appreciate hearing how others have tackled this issue.
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