Vantage 5.2 and terminal server

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Tim,

Are you using an ICA desktop connection or a published application to run
Vantage? If ICA, you need to maximize the window to see the terminal server
task bar. If you are using published applications in a farm, you will need
to change the properties in the published application manager. Hope it
helps!

Mario Aguirre
Lakin General

-----Original Message-----
From: tim.goertz@... [mailto:tim.goertz@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:44 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 5.2 and terminal server

Their seems to be problems setting up the session as full screen too. From
what I've seen, you are unable to see any of your other open windows on the
bottom like you normally can within windows. The only way to switch to
another window is using the alt-tab keys which wouldn't be so bad but I
haven't seem a way to get to the main windows desktop to do other functions
when you have a full screen terminal server session open.

Tim Goertz

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:01:18 -0500
From: "Leonard, Jeremy" <jleonard@...>
Subject: RE: Vantage 5.2 and terminal server

Sorry Tim, I misunderstood you. There is a setting in the Terminal Server
Client that lets you run the Terminal Server session in "Full Screen". This
will take care of your problem.
Thanks
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: tim.goertz@... [mailto:tim.goertz@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 5.2 and terminal server


We are in the process of planning our implementation from 4.0 to 5.2 for
over the holidays and it wasn't until a month or so ago we found out that
Epicor wasn't going to support win95 for 5.2 (which came as a surprise to
us). Anyway, we have about 50 PC's throughout the shop still on that and do
not plan to upgrade these PC's to Win2000 due to hardware limitations on
many of these PCs (not to mention the cost) we are looking at either taking
the chance and continue to run them on Win95 (at least to start with - the
only problem I have seen is an initial log in error but I'm leery there will
more) or moving them all to terminal server or Citrix. We'd prefer to just
move them all to terminal server since the licenses are still free on NT
4.0 but have seen issues with window sizing in using it with Vantage in the
past - some screens get cut off, etc.

From what I have seen, it seems that if you have the display resolution on
the PC set at 800x600 (which all these PC's use now - they all have small
14" touch screen monitors), the Vantage screens all appear normally when
running a normal Vantage session. If you load terminal server client on the
PC, however, and connect with a session that has a display setting of
800x600 (which would be the max with your PC display set at that), the
terminal server session cuts off some of the screens and you have to scroll.
It looks like if you set all of these PC displays at 1024x768 and connect
with a terminal server session at the same settings, it's not a problem but
with these small monitors, it makes it a lot more difficult to see and use
the touch screens at this setting. Has anyone experienced any of these
screen sizing issues using Vantage and terminal server and if so, how did
you work around it? Are there some type of standard display settings that
should be used with Vantage and terminal server?


Tim Goertz



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We are in the process of planning our implementation from 4.0 to 5.2 for
over the holidays and it wasn't until a month or so ago we found out that
Epicor wasn't going to support win95 for 5.2 (which came as a surprise to
us). Anyway, we have about 50 PC's throughout the shop still on that and do
not plan to upgrade these PC's to Win2000 due to hardware limitations on
many of these PCs (not to mention the cost) we are looking at either taking
the chance and continue to run them on Win95 (at least to start with - the
only problem I have seen is an initial log in error but I'm leery there will
more) or moving them all to terminal server or Citrix. We'd prefer to just
move them all to terminal server since the licenses are still free on NT
4.0 but have seen issues with window sizing in using it with Vantage in the
past - some screens get cut off, etc.

From what I have seen, it seems that if you have the display resolution on
the PC set at 800x600 (which all these PC's use now - they all have small
14" touch screen monitors), the Vantage screens all appear normally when
running a normal Vantage session. If you load terminal server client on the
PC, however, and connect with a session that has a display setting of
800x600 (which would be the max with your PC display set at that), the
terminal server session cuts off some of the screens and you have to scroll.
It looks like if you set all of these PC displays at 1024x768 and connect
with a terminal server session at the same settings, it's not a problem but
with these small monitors, it makes it a lot more difficult to see and use
the touch screens at this setting. Has anyone experienced any of these
screen sizing issues using Vantage and terminal server and if so, how did
you work around it? Are there some type of standard display settings that
should be used with Vantage and terminal server?


Tim Goertz



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Sorry Tim, I misunderstood you. There is a setting in the Terminal Server
Client that lets you run the Terminal Server session in "Full Screen". This
will take care of your problem.
Thanks
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: tim.goertz@... [mailto:tim.goertz@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 5.2 and terminal server


We are in the process of planning our implementation from 4.0 to 5.2 for
over the holidays and it wasn't until a month or so ago we found out that
Epicor wasn't going to support win95 for 5.2 (which came as a surprise to
us). Anyway, we have about 50 PC's throughout the shop still on that and do
not plan to upgrade these PC's to Win2000 due to hardware limitations on
many of these PCs (not to mention the cost) we are looking at either taking
the chance and continue to run them on Win95 (at least to start with - the
only problem I have seen is an initial log in error but I'm leery there will
more) or moving them all to terminal server or Citrix. We'd prefer to just
move them all to terminal server since the licenses are still free on NT
4.0 but have seen issues with window sizing in using it with Vantage in the
past - some screens get cut off, etc.

From what I have seen, it seems that if you have the display resolution on
the PC set at 800x600 (which all these PC's use now - they all have small
14" touch screen monitors), the Vantage screens all appear normally when
running a normal Vantage session. If you load terminal server client on the
PC, however, and connect with a session that has a display setting of
800x600 (which would be the max with your PC display set at that), the
terminal server session cuts off some of the screens and you have to scroll.
It looks like if you set all of these PC displays at 1024x768 and connect
with a terminal server session at the same settings, it's not a problem but
with these small monitors, it makes it a lot more difficult to see and use
the touch screens at this setting. Has anyone experienced any of these
screen sizing issues using Vantage and terminal server and if so, how did
you work around it? Are there some type of standard display settings that
should be used with Vantage and terminal server?


Tim Goertz



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Their seems to be problems setting up the session as full screen too. From
what I've seen, you are unable to see any of your other open windows on the
bottom like you normally can within windows. The only way to switch to
another window is using the alt-tab keys which wouldn't be so bad but I
haven't seem a way to get to the main windows desktop to do other functions
when you have a full screen terminal server session open.

Tim Goertz

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:01:18 -0500
From: "Leonard, Jeremy" <jleonard@...>
Subject: RE: Vantage 5.2 and terminal server

Sorry Tim, I misunderstood you. There is a setting in the Terminal Server
Client that lets you run the Terminal Server session in "Full Screen". This
will take care of your problem.
Thanks
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: tim.goertz@... [mailto:tim.goertz@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 5.2 and terminal server


We are in the process of planning our implementation from 4.0 to 5.2 for
over the holidays and it wasn't until a month or so ago we found out that
Epicor wasn't going to support win95 for 5.2 (which came as a surprise to
us). Anyway, we have about 50 PC's throughout the shop still on that and do
not plan to upgrade these PC's to Win2000 due to hardware limitations on
many of these PCs (not to mention the cost) we are looking at either taking
the chance and continue to run them on Win95 (at least to start with - the
only problem I have seen is an initial log in error but I'm leery there will
more) or moving them all to terminal server or Citrix. We'd prefer to just
move them all to terminal server since the licenses are still free on NT
4.0 but have seen issues with window sizing in using it with Vantage in the
past - some screens get cut off, etc.

From what I have seen, it seems that if you have the display resolution on
the PC set at 800x600 (which all these PC's use now - they all have small
14" touch screen monitors), the Vantage screens all appear normally when
running a normal Vantage session. If you load terminal server client on the
PC, however, and connect with a session that has a display setting of
800x600 (which would be the max with your PC display set at that), the
terminal server session cuts off some of the screens and you have to scroll.
It looks like if you set all of these PC displays at 1024x768 and connect
with a terminal server session at the same settings, it's not a problem but
with these small monitors, it makes it a lot more difficult to see and use
the touch screens at this setting. Has anyone experienced any of these
screen sizing issues using Vantage and terminal server and if so, how did
you work around it? Are there some type of standard display settings that
should be used with Vantage and terminal server?


Tim Goertz



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Not sure if this is where you are going with this, but this might help...

When you are in Terminal server and hit three keys at once -> Control, Alt,
Break
(Note: Break is the key above the Page up button on my keyboard)
(Note: Sort of like you hit Control, Alt, Delete)
You will, in effect, Toggle between using the Full screen on your desktop
and using a window on your desktop. When you are Toggled to the full
screen, the window scrolling goes away.

That way, regardless of how the Terminal Server Client Connection Manager is
set up, you can toggle back and forth so that you aren't limited by the Alt
Tab toggling routine.

Hope this is what you were seeking.

Allan R. Holmsten, CFO
Wilbrecht Electronics, Inc.
1400 Energy Park Drive #18
St Paul, MN 55108
651-659-0919
651-659-9204 Fax
aholmsten@...
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:17:47 -0800
From: "Mike Lowe"<MLowe@...>
Subject: Re:Vantage 5.2 and terminal server

Tim,

There is a setting in the ICA client setup for Windows size. Try using
"FULL
SIZE". Might do the trick.

Mike Lowe
Connor Manufacturing Services

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Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 5.2 and terminal server
Author: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 12/9/2002 8:45 AM

We are in the process of planning our implementation from 4.0 to 5.2 for
over the holidays and it wasn't until a month or so ago we found out that
Epicor wasn't going to support win95 for 5.2 (which came as a surprise to
us). Anyway, we have about 50 PC's throughout the shop still on that and do
not plan to upgrade these PC's to Win2000 due to hardware limitations on
many of these PCs (not to mention the cost) we are looking at either taking
the chance and continue to run them on Win95 (at least to start with - the
only problem I have seen is an initial log in error but I'm leery there will
more) or moving them all to terminal server or Citrix. We'd prefer to just
move them all to terminal server since the licenses are still free on NT
4.0 but have seen issues with window sizing in using it with Vantage in the
past - some screens get cut off, etc.

From what I have seen, it seems that if you have the display resolution on
the PC set at 800x600 (which all these PC's use now - they all have small
14" touch screen monitors), the Vantage screens all appear normally when
running a normal Vantage session. If you load terminal server client on the
PC, however, and connect with a session that has a display setting of
800x600 (which would be the max with your PC display set at that), the
terminal server session cuts off some of the screens and you have to scroll.
It looks like if you set all of these PC displays at 1024x768 and connect
with a terminal server session at the same settings, it's not a problem but
with these small monitors, it makes it a lot more difficult to see and use
the touch screens at this setting. Has anyone experienced any of these
screen sizing issues using Vantage and terminal server and if so, how did
you work around it? Are there some type of standard display settings that
should be used with Vantage and terminal server?


Tim Goertz