WIP Report Relieving Material

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I'm replying to my own post from 6/28. Epicor has confirmed that in 5.2,
there is a "bug" that does what I described (relieving all the material with
a partial receipt from manufacturing or shipment). 6.0 and 6.1 has
supposedly fixed the problem - I can confirm that at least on 6.0 because I
am testing it now and shipping partials relieves labor, burden, and material
proportionately.

I would like to know if the same problem existed on 5.0, so if anyone still
running 5.0 could test it on a test db, we would appreciated it. We think
we noticed the problem since we converted to 5.2. I no longer have 5.0
installed, and would prefer not to try and reinstall it as I already have
5.2, and 6.0 running, and have limited room on the hd.

Please feel free to call/email me offline if you need more info to duplicate
the problem.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:28 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


For some time now (Vantage 5.2, patch 323), we've been trying to find an
apparent discrepancy in WIP value reported in the WIP report vs what we
think it should be. We feel the WIP report is understating value and
discovered today, that on a job for 200 pcs, 125 completed, and 125 shipped
from the job, that all the material value in WIP was relieved and moved to
COS, whereas the labor and burden moved to COS proportionately. Why did all
the material move to COS?


Norm Watkins
Engineering Manager
ELECPAC
Phone: 847-639-2307




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For some time now (Vantage 5.2, patch 323), we've been trying to find an
apparent discrepancy in WIP value reported in the WIP report vs what we
think it should be. We feel the WIP report is understating value and
discovered today, that on a job for 200 pcs, 125 completed, and 125 shipped
from the job, that all the material value in WIP was relieved and moved to
COS, whereas the labor and burden moved to COS proportionately. Why did all
the material move to COS?

Also, we occasionally see negative values in WIP, but I haven't been able to
recreate it with a test job. Under what conditions does WIP go negative?

Norm Watkins
Engineering Manager
ELECPAC
Phone: 847-639-2307
3
did it move all or all but the 1st material listed on the job? are you using
auto receipt with one operation and on average costing?
this happened to us 2 months ago we are on 6.1 but the have fixed it.



Frank Zeigafuse

Innovative Office Products

General Manager

Direct Phone: 610-559-6369

Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


For some time now (Vantage 5.2, patch 323), we've been trying to find an
apparent discrepancy in WIP value reported in the WIP report vs what we
think it should be. We feel the WIP report is understating value and
discovered today, that on a job for 200 pcs, 125 completed, and 125 shipped
from the job, that all the material value in WIP was relieved and moved to
COS, whereas the labor and burden moved to COS proportionately. Why did all
the material move to COS?

Also, we occasionally see negative values in WIP, but I haven't been able to
recreate it with a test job. Under what conditions does WIP go negative?

Norm Watkins
Engineering Manager
ELECPAC
Phone: 847-639-2307



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Frank, it moved all the material cost, we are not on auto-receive, and we
use average costing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Zeigafuse [mailto:fzeigafuse@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


did it move all or all but the 1st material listed on the job? are you using
auto receipt with one operation and on average costing?
this happened to us 2 months ago we are on 6.1 but the have fixed it.



Frank Zeigafuse

Innovative Office Products

General Manager

Direct Phone: 610-559-6369

Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


For some time now (Vantage 5.2, patch 323), we've been trying to find an
apparent discrepancy in WIP value reported in the WIP report vs what we
think it should be. We feel the WIP report is understating value and
discovered today, that on a job for 200 pcs, 125 completed, and 125 shipped
from the job, that all the material value in WIP was relieved and moved to
COS, whereas the labor and burden moved to COS proportionately. Why did all
the material move to COS?

Also, we occasionally see negative values in WIP, but I haven't been able to
recreate it with a test job. Under what conditions does WIP go negative?

Norm Watkins
Engineering Manager
ELECPAC
Phone: 847-639-2307



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how many pages is the production detail report? I could take a quick peak
for you.



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General Manager

Direct Phone: 610-559-6369

Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


Frank, it moved all the material cost, we are not on auto-receive, and we
use average costing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Zeigafuse [mailto:fzeigafuse@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


did it move all or all but the 1st material listed on the job? are you using
auto receipt with one operation and on average costing?
this happened to us 2 months ago we are on 6.1 but the have fixed it.



Frank Zeigafuse

Innovative Office Products

General Manager

Direct Phone: 610-559-6369

Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


For some time now (Vantage 5.2, patch 323), we've been trying to find an
apparent discrepancy in WIP value reported in the WIP report vs what we
think it should be. We feel the WIP report is understating value and
discovered today, that on a job for 200 pcs, 125 completed, and 125 shipped
from the job, that all the material value in WIP was relieved and moved to
COS, whereas the labor and burden moved to COS proportionately. Why did all
the material move to COS?

Also, we occasionally see negative values in WIP, but I haven't been able to
recreate it with a test job. Under what conditions does WIP go negative?

Norm Watkins
Engineering Manager
ELECPAC
Phone: 847-639-2307



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Ours usually works well unless the bill of material is incorrect or the qty complete from production is incorrect

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Zeigafuse [mailto:fzeigafuse@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:31 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


how many pages is the production detail report? I could take a quick peak
for you.



Frank Zeigafuse

Innovative Office Products

General Manager

Direct Phone: 610-559-6369

Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


Frank, it moved all the material cost, we are not on auto-receive, and we
use average costing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Zeigafuse [mailto:fzeigafuse@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:13 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


did it move all or all but the 1st material listed on the job? are you using
auto receipt with one operation and on average costing?
this happened to us 2 months ago we are on 6.1 but the have fixed it.



Frank Zeigafuse

Innovative Office Products

General Manager

Direct Phone: 610-559-6369

Email: fzeigafuse@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Watkins [mailto:nwatkins@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Report Relieving Material


For some time now (Vantage 5.2, patch 323), we've been trying to find an
apparent discrepancy in WIP value reported in the WIP report vs what we
think it should be. We feel the WIP report is understating value and
discovered today, that on a job for 200 pcs, 125 completed, and 125 shipped
from the job, that all the material value in WIP was relieved and moved to
COS, whereas the labor and burden moved to COS proportionately. Why did all
the material move to COS?

Also, we occasionally see negative values in WIP, but I haven't been able to
recreate it with a test job. Under what conditions does WIP go negative?

Norm Watkins
Engineering Manager
ELECPAC
Phone: 847-639-2307



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