Thank you very much. That information may hold some good clues for us. I sent support our DB via CD. Our account manager was here yesterday doiing a demo and took the CD back to the office. It's handy being so close to support (one reason we selected Vantage). We never had this problem before 5.20. Is there something in the procedures (the dots and i's) that changed. We went from 4.0 to 5.20 so anything we are now missing that occured in between (anyone)?
Thanks,
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Brodniak [mailto:karen.brodniak@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
Todd,
I don't think it is the same issue. In our case, the WIP report showed that
a portion of the job cost went to inventory and those figures were correct.
The rest of the cost of the job showed that it posted to COS and the balance
in WIP was .00. However, when the job closed, over $2,000 was purged to Cost
of Sales. Fortunately, I had saved the WIP printout that is printed before a
job is closed to see if all costs have been moved out of the job. I called
support. Their first thought was that it was a timing problem and something
was posted to the job between the time the report was ran and the job
actually closed. I had all the documentation showing the dates of all
postings and what had posted to cost of sales when the parts shipped. The
COS posting did not match what the WIP report showed. The documentation was
faxed to them and they could not duplicate the problem. Then they asked for
our database, which we sent. As I said before, Patch 313 fixes some of the
problem but support has admitted that there is another calculation error in
the WIP report.
If your total Subcontract costs actually posted to COS when a partial order
was shipped, I would say that all the data processing was not done prior to
shipment. We have had the problem before and it was traced to someone not
filling in completed quantities or checking the proper boxes. In other
words, all i's were not dotted and all t's were not crossed.
Hope this helps.
Karen Brodniak
Accounting Manager
Westwood Precision, Inc.
Phone 425-742-7011 x44
Fax 425-353-8945
<mailto:karen.brodniak@...>
karen.brodniak@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:11 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
Karen,
I posted a similar issue yesterday about all of the subcontract costs going
to COS if part of a job was shipped (instead of the remainder staying in
WIP). If you have a chance could you take a look at that post and let me
know if this is the same issue. Sure sounds like it. I am at the point
where Support wants a copy of our DB (we are on 5.20.313) because they can
not deuplicate it (on 5.20.314). The FTP takes forever. If this is a known
problem I would like to direct their attention to it as a possible cause of
our problem.
Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Brodniak [mailto:karen.brodniak@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
Check your cost of sales to see what actually posted when those were
shipped. The WIP report has calculation errors and what the WIP report says
is in WIP is not necessarily what is actually there. So far, I have found 2
jobs where the WIP report showed that all costs were relieved from a job to
cost of sales. But when the jobs were closed, there was a few thousand
dollars purged out of the jobs.
WIP Subcontract has a known error that was fixed with patch 313. The cost of
rejected parts from a subcontractor was not being subtracted from the WIP
Subcontract total. They are now working on the fix for the cost of sales
calculation problem. I hardly have any hair left after figuring this out and
trying to get support to get it fixed. This has been going on a year now.
Karen Brodniak
Accounting Manager
Westwood Precision, Inc.
Phone 425-742-7011 x44
Fax 425-353-8945
karen.brodniak@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:36 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
I am struggling here a little today and looking for some advice. I have
noticed an issue with our WIP report since moving to release 5.2. I have
checked the Help section of Vantage and reviewed the Report Notes, and it
actually makes sense to me. Having said that, I have a series of jobs
(all
unrelated, different parts, different Customers)where the Quantity Shipped
(Relieved QTY), is less than the Job Head Prod.QTY. For example, I am
making 72 pieces on a job for 6 releases of 12. I have made 2 shipments
of
12 (24) The WIP is being calculated as if ALL the costs are COS and the
remaining WIP is $0.00. (we have no postings that are MFG_STK)
Now granted we do a pretty lousy job of having proper counts on the
operations of completed quantities, but according to the notes in Vantage,
quantities completed have no impact on the quantity relieved from WIP to
COS
and Inventory,
This is probably not making a lot of sense, but having said that, has
ANYONE
come across a similar problem with release 5.2. This did not occur in our
prior releases.
Any feedback would be appreciated
Bob Goss
BC Instruments
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-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Brodniak [mailto:karen.brodniak@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
Todd,
I don't think it is the same issue. In our case, the WIP report showed that
a portion of the job cost went to inventory and those figures were correct.
The rest of the cost of the job showed that it posted to COS and the balance
in WIP was .00. However, when the job closed, over $2,000 was purged to Cost
of Sales. Fortunately, I had saved the WIP printout that is printed before a
job is closed to see if all costs have been moved out of the job. I called
support. Their first thought was that it was a timing problem and something
was posted to the job between the time the report was ran and the job
actually closed. I had all the documentation showing the dates of all
postings and what had posted to cost of sales when the parts shipped. The
COS posting did not match what the WIP report showed. The documentation was
faxed to them and they could not duplicate the problem. Then they asked for
our database, which we sent. As I said before, Patch 313 fixes some of the
problem but support has admitted that there is another calculation error in
the WIP report.
If your total Subcontract costs actually posted to COS when a partial order
was shipped, I would say that all the data processing was not done prior to
shipment. We have had the problem before and it was traced to someone not
filling in completed quantities or checking the proper boxes. In other
words, all i's were not dotted and all t's were not crossed.
Hope this helps.
Karen Brodniak
Accounting Manager
Westwood Precision, Inc.
Phone 425-742-7011 x44
Fax 425-353-8945
<mailto:karen.brodniak@...>
karen.brodniak@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:11 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
Karen,
I posted a similar issue yesterday about all of the subcontract costs going
to COS if part of a job was shipped (instead of the remainder staying in
WIP). If you have a chance could you take a look at that post and let me
know if this is the same issue. Sure sounds like it. I am at the point
where Support wants a copy of our DB (we are on 5.20.313) because they can
not deuplicate it (on 5.20.314). The FTP takes forever. If this is a known
problem I would like to direct their attention to it as a possible cause of
our problem.
Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Brodniak [mailto:karen.brodniak@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
Check your cost of sales to see what actually posted when those were
shipped. The WIP report has calculation errors and what the WIP report says
is in WIP is not necessarily what is actually there. So far, I have found 2
jobs where the WIP report showed that all costs were relieved from a job to
cost of sales. But when the jobs were closed, there was a few thousand
dollars purged out of the jobs.
WIP Subcontract has a known error that was fixed with patch 313. The cost of
rejected parts from a subcontractor was not being subtracted from the WIP
Subcontract total. They are now working on the fix for the cost of sales
calculation problem. I hardly have any hair left after figuring this out and
trying to get support to get it fixed. This has been going on a year now.
Karen Brodniak
Accounting Manager
Westwood Precision, Inc.
Phone 425-742-7011 x44
Fax 425-353-8945
karen.brodniak@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Goss [mailto:bobg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:36 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] WIP Calculations in release 5.2???
I am struggling here a little today and looking for some advice. I have
noticed an issue with our WIP report since moving to release 5.2. I have
checked the Help section of Vantage and reviewed the Report Notes, and it
actually makes sense to me. Having said that, I have a series of jobs
(all
unrelated, different parts, different Customers)where the Quantity Shipped
(Relieved QTY), is less than the Job Head Prod.QTY. For example, I am
making 72 pieces on a job for 6 releases of 12. I have made 2 shipments
of
12 (24) The WIP is being calculated as if ALL the costs are COS and the
remaining WIP is $0.00. (we have no postings that are MFG_STK)
Now granted we do a pretty lousy job of having proper counts on the
operations of completed quantities, but according to the notes in Vantage,
quantities completed have no impact on the quantity relieved from WIP to
COS
and Inventory,
This is probably not making a lot of sense, but having said that, has
ANYONE
come across a similar problem with release 5.2. This did not occur in our
prior releases.
Any feedback would be appreciated
Bob Goss
BC Instruments
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