AntiVirus

Todd,

Thanks for the info.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [SMTP:tanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:07 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus

Steve,

I've been using Innoculan for several years on a Vantage server
and on all
client PC's.

Works great and performance is not an issue !!!

However, one gotcha:

Set Innoculan on the server to ONLY scan incoming files. As in,
don't scan
programs and routines that are being downloaded from the server
going out to
the clients.

Set Innoculan on the client to ONLY scan incoming files. As
in, Innoculan
views everything from the "Servers" perspective. Even when
installed on the
client. So scanning incoming files on the clients means "Don't
scan any
files being downloaded from a server - but scan everything going
UP to a
server." Of course all input to and from floppies and CD's is
always
scanned. If you scan "Outgoing" files on the clients what you
are scanning
is all files coming out of the server and going into the client
- as in, all
Vantage programs and bmp's. Performance will die if you scan
"outgoing"
files.

If you setup Innoculan using the defaults it will scan
everything in both
directions. In this mode ANY virus scanning program will kill
Vantage
performance.

But if all files being loaded to a server are scanned as clean
and the
server itself is clean then by default any files leaving the
server also
have to be clean even though you aren't checking them.

This is one case where I firmly believe Vantage tech support
gave you bad
advice.

Whether Innoculan is the best anti-virus software on the market
is another
story.

I like it because:
* I get emails directly from the Innoculan immediately after
new signature
files are released so I can download them fast.
* Once I install the new anti-virus signature files on my
Innoculan server
all of my NT workstations are automatically updated within a few
hours and
all WIN-95/98 machines are automatically updated the next time
they are
rebooted.
* I also have it setup that on a new machine as soon as the
logon script
runs if Innoculan is not installed it will install automatically
with the
current signature files and I can setup the options I want as
part of the
auto-install.

I've had excellent performance and it has been VERY low
maintenance. I
could only wish that Vantage was as easy to take care of and had
as little
impact on performance.

Todd Anderson
J. Rubin & Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wirtz [mailto:SWirtz@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:15 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus


I suggest people who want to use InoculatLan should check with
Vantage
Support. We had a problem last year, (don't remember what it
was), and
part of the response from Vantage Support was that Inoculatlan
and
Progress didn't get along very well. We ended up taking
InoculatLan off
the server.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trzaska, Mark
[SMTP:mtrzaska@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 12:27 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus

We Use InoculatLan from Computer Associates. We've been
using it
for 2 years
now and have never had a problem. I am using Norton on My
Exchanger Server.
But Inoculan on the NT Vantage Server

-----Original Message-----
From: Hendrik Stasik [mailto:hstasik@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:13 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] AntiVirus


Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or
2000
on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background
?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik






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Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or 2000 on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background ?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik
I Prefer the MYCIO product from McAfree.

Eric Tolliver
IT\MIS
Continental Industries Inc.
5456 E. Mcdowell Rd.
Mesa, Az 85215
http://ciirelays.com/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hendrik Stasik [mailto:hstasik@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:13 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] AntiVirus

Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or 2000 on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background ?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik



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What is "MYCIO" ? and who is McAfree ?



I Prefer the MYCIO product from McAfree.
We Use InoculatLan from Computer Associates. We've been using it for 2 years
now and have never had a problem. I am using Norton on My Exchanger Server.
But Inoculan on the NT Vantage Server

-----Original Message-----
From: Hendrik Stasik [mailto:hstasik@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:13 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] AntiVirus


Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or 2000 on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background ?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik



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My CIO is an auto updating virus software service put out by McAfree
antivirus software, When you first connect to the internet it will auto
update to the current release in a very short amount of time so it is
usually very up to date on the latest virus threats. http://www.mycio.com/

Eric Tolliver
IT\MIS
Continental Industries Inc.
5456 E. Mcdowell Rd.
Mesa, Az 85215
http://ciirelays.com/
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What is "MYCIO" ? and who is McAfree ?



I Prefer the MYCIO product from McAfree.
I suggest people who want to use InoculatLan should check with Vantage
Support. We had a problem last year, (don't remember what it was), and
part of the response from Vantage Support was that Inoculatlan and
Progress didn't get along very well. We ended up taking InoculatLan off
the server.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trzaska, Mark [SMTP:mtrzaska@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 12:27 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus

We Use InoculatLan from Computer Associates. We've been using it
for 2 years
now and have never had a problem. I am using Norton on My
Exchanger Server.
But Inoculan on the NT Vantage Server

-----Original Message-----
From: Hendrik Stasik [mailto:hstasik@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:13 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] AntiVirus


Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or 2000
on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background ?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik



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Not that scanner specifically but we have had a definite compatibility issue
with Client PC virus scanners and Vantage. Some of the users who still have
the Norton System Works version of NAV take up to 5 minutes to have Vantage
start. Splash screen sits there and eventually goes away and much later the
login screen comes up. Performance while using Vantage is also very slow.
As I encounter these I load the Symantec Corporate Edition Client NAV and
both startup and usage speeds improve hugely. The Epicor guy that loaded a
few clients when the system was first installed said there was a known issue
with "some" anti-virus software trying to scan all of Vantage (or Progress)
at startup and each .dll as it is used. So I am not suprised that support
is aware of virus scanner issues.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wirtz [mailto:SWirtz@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:15 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus


I suggest people who want to use InoculatLan should check with Vantage
Support. We had a problem last year, (don't remember what it was), and
part of the response from Vantage Support was that Inoculatlan and
Progress didn't get along very well. We ended up taking InoculatLan off
the server.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trzaska, Mark [SMTP:mtrzaska@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 12:27 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus

We Use InoculatLan from Computer Associates. We've been using it
for 2 years
now and have never had a problem. I am using Norton on My
Exchanger Server.
But Inoculan on the NT Vantage Server

-----Original Message-----
From: Hendrik Stasik [mailto:hstasik@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:13 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] AntiVirus


Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or 2000
on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background ?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik



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Steve,

I've been using Innoculan for several years on a Vantage server and on all
client PC's.

Works great and performance is not an issue !!!

However, one gotcha:

Set Innoculan on the server to ONLY scan incoming files. As in, don't scan
programs and routines that are being downloaded from the server going out to
the clients.

Set Innoculan on the client to ONLY scan incoming files. As in, Innoculan
views everything from the "Servers" perspective. Even when installed on the
client. So scanning incoming files on the clients means "Don't scan any
files being downloaded from a server - but scan everything going UP to a
server." Of course all input to and from floppies and CD's is always
scanned. If you scan "Outgoing" files on the clients what you are scanning
is all files coming out of the server and going into the client - as in, all
Vantage programs and bmp's. Performance will die if you scan "outgoing"
files.

If you setup Innoculan using the defaults it will scan everything in both
directions. In this mode ANY virus scanning program will kill Vantage
performance.

But if all files being loaded to a server are scanned as clean and the
server itself is clean then by default any files leaving the server also
have to be clean even though you aren't checking them.

This is one case where I firmly believe Vantage tech support gave you bad
advice.

Whether Innoculan is the best anti-virus software on the market is another
story.

I like it because:
* I get emails directly from the Innoculan immediately after new signature
files are released so I can download them fast.
* Once I install the new anti-virus signature files on my Innoculan server
all of my NT workstations are automatically updated within a few hours and
all WIN-95/98 machines are automatically updated the next time they are
rebooted.
* I also have it setup that on a new machine as soon as the logon script
runs if Innoculan is not installed it will install automatically with the
current signature files and I can setup the options I want as part of the
auto-install.

I've had excellent performance and it has been VERY low maintenance. I
could only wish that Vantage was as easy to take care of and had as little
impact on performance.

Todd Anderson
J. Rubin & Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wirtz [mailto:SWirtz@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:15 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus


I suggest people who want to use InoculatLan should check with Vantage
Support. We had a problem last year, (don't remember what it was), and
part of the response from Vantage Support was that Inoculatlan and
Progress didn't get along very well. We ended up taking InoculatLan off
the server.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trzaska, Mark [SMTP:mtrzaska@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 12:27 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] AntiVirus

We Use InoculatLan from Computer Associates. We've been using it
for 2 years
now and have never had a problem. I am using Norton on My
Exchanger Server.
But Inoculan on the NT Vantage Server

-----Original Message-----
From: Hendrik Stasik [mailto:hstasik@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:13 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] AntiVirus


Hi all,

does anything speak against to put Norton Antivirus NT or 2000
on the
Vantage Server and let Auto-Protect run in the background ?
Are there any better solutions than Norton ?

Thanks

Hendrik