We send an operation drawing with every subcontract order showing exactly
what they are to do and what spec's are to be met, etc. Then we use the
comment field very heavily to explain what they are to work to, rev levels
included, serial numbers, etc. the pack list generally just shows the
serial numbers and the PO it matches up with. You are right, I would
rather the PO didn't pull the finished part and that revision. Every new
vendor has to be told why that is there. i.e. "the computer is stupid"
errr, well, anyway. I thought I would get through the day without jumping
on the soap box. Ha!
Have a good day, all.
-----Original Message-----
From: ami_miker [mailto:michael.randolph@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Days Out (Outside Processing)
Thanks Frank. I thought you had something new and was looking
for "packing slip" under reports. I am familiar with the sub
contract shipper, but it lists the final part instead of the
componenets being sent out. (Which matches what the PO does, but it
still is confusing to our subcontractors who work on a specific
componenet of a large assembly.)
We do use the sub contract shipper on some of our jobs where the
operation is late enough in the process so it looks like we are
shipping / receiving the final unit.
Thanks - Michael
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <fzeigafuse@l...>
wrote:
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what they are to do and what spec's are to be met, etc. Then we use the
comment field very heavily to explain what they are to work to, rev levels
included, serial numbers, etc. the pack list generally just shows the
serial numbers and the PO it matches up with. You are right, I would
rather the PO didn't pull the finished part and that revision. Every new
vendor has to be told why that is there. i.e. "the computer is stupid"
errr, well, anyway. I thought I would get through the day without jumping
on the soap box. Ha!
Have a good day, all.
-----Original Message-----
From: ami_miker [mailto:michael.randolph@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Days Out (Outside Processing)
Thanks Frank. I thought you had something new and was looking
for "packing slip" under reports. I am familiar with the sub
contract shipper, but it lists the final part instead of the
componenets being sent out. (Which matches what the PO does, but it
still is confusing to our subcontractors who work on a specific
componenet of a large assembly.)
We do use the sub contract shipper on some of our jobs where the
operation is late enough in the process so it looks like we are
shipping / receiving the final unit.
Thanks - Michael
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse" <fzeigafuse@l...>
wrote:
> It is under materials management - shipping receiving - generaloperations -
> sub contract ship<fzeigafuse@l...>
>
> This actually works for us.
>
> Frank Zeigafuse
> Innovative Office Products
> General Manager
> Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
> Email: fzeigafuse@L...
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ami_miker [mailto:michael.randolph@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:12 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Days Out (Outside Processing)
>
>
>
>
> No. I don't see it and don't remember it from implementation (it
> was such a sleep-deprived time that we might have turned it off by
> mistake). Is it an out-of-the-box report for 6.1?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Zeigafuse"
> wrote:the
> > Have you tried subcontract ship pick list this may help you.
> >
> > Frank Zeigafuse
> > Innovative Office Products
> > General Manager
> > Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
> > Email: fzeigafuse@L...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ami_miker [mailto:michael.randolph@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:48 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Days Out (Outside Processing)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Outside Processing seems to be fairly weak. Although you are
> > listing a subcontracted operation on the job, the PO lists the
> final
> > part instead of the specific process. The subcontracter has been
> > given drawing A for the specific process (which could be listed
> with
> > the operation), but receives a PO referencing a drawing B.
> >
> > The subcontracted packing slip lists the final item instead of
> > materials being sent. We are sending materials X, Y and Z inThe
> > quantities of 100, 200 and 300 to make 100 pieces of Part A.
> > packing slip the subcontracter receives reads 100 pieces of Partthe
> A.
> >
> > If the final part is serialized prior to shipping materials to
> > subcontractor, the "inspect upon receipt" must be turned off.The
> > inspection process for a serialized part requires the serialoff
> number
> > at the time of inspection, but the Subcontracter Shipper does not
> > ask for a serial number. Since Vantage thinks none went out, a
> new
> > one has to be created coming in. We ended up creating an
> operation
> > called Inspection for these specific jobs.
> >
> > Outside lot charges for multiple jobs (anodizing or plating, for
> > example) is impossible in 6.10. We have several outside process
> > where we pay a fixed amount regardless of which parts or what
> > quantities we send. We had to get pretty creative to make a PO
> that
> > reads "$90 Lot Charge" for 3 different quantities of 3 parts.
> >
> > In many cases, we have used parts to capture the subcontacting
> > costs. What I am wanting Vantage to do with the outside
> processing
> > isn't as simple as I make it sound, but the "shiney was rubbed
> > the subcontracting apple" very quickly. What Vantage does well,finite
> it
> > does very well. Subcontracted operations just isn't one of those
> > things. Maybe in 8.0 . . . . .
> >
> >
> > Michael Randolph
> > Purchasing Manager
> > American Magnetics, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bbelzer42" <bbelzer@t...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone noticed that if you send parts out to outside
> > processing
> > > with a Days Out of X days, when you global finite schedule, it
> > keeps
> > > moving the start and due dates?
> > >
> > > Ex. Send parts out for 3 Days Out on Monday. Then global
> > > schedule on tuesday, and now it says due Friday instead ofaccess. )
> Thurs.
> > > Then global finite schedule Wed., and its now due Monday.
> > >
> > > Doesn't the system know that the packing slip means that it is
> > > currently being worked on and not to reschedule those that are
> > > already being worked on? (That box IS checked by the way)
> > >
> > > Anyone else with this problem?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >
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