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You aren't missing anything Adam.

Epicor, with their vast manufacturing knowledge, doesn't support Job receipt or OP completion inspection.

All they support is '1st article' inspection at the OpDetail level. You can specificy how many pieces you want inspection to sample process after set up is completed.

If you truly need your Job methods to have some interrum inspection points (or a pre-receipt inspection), you can create an Inspection Resource and simply add an OPs that call it where needed.

That will not make the inspection show up in the inspection module queue UNLESS you then specify a 1st article qty for the inspection OPs.

Its a cludge but it will work.

Rob Brown

ariffer <ariffer@...> wrote:
I haven't been able to figure out how to use inspection formally for
in house jobs.

Maybe I am missing something, but with subcontract operations parts
show up in the inspection queue, but with internal jobs they don't.

We are currently not using labor tracking, but if this is necesary to
gain this functionality let me know.

I am hoping someone with their vast experience with Vista/Vantage can
explain a hopefully simple process I am missing.

Thanks,

Adam






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I haven't been able to figure out how to use inspection formally for
in house jobs.

Maybe I am missing something, but with subcontract operations parts
show up in the inspection queue, but with internal jobs they don't.

We are currently not using labor tracking, but if this is necesary to
gain this functionality let me know.

I am hoping someone with their vast experience with Vista/Vantage can
explain a hopefully simple process I am missing.

Thanks,

Adam
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There is no clean way to do inside inspection. What you can do is create
in inspection operation and then record labor against it. In the
inspection operation, those that pass inspection are good and those that
fail are non-conforming. The non-conforming parts then go to the QA
inspection panel just as if another operation created the
non-conformance. This makes inspection a direct labor function. If you
make this a quantity only function Time will be calculated using the
estimated hours. If you set up the estimated hours at 0, no time will be
recorded, no burden will be reported and it will act as an indirect
operation.



Another way the same thing can be handled is to do the inspection
without having an operation in your method and record the
non-conformance where the operation that created the problem occurred.
You can create an operational non-conformance in the non-conformance
program and then act on it from there. This method keeps Inspection as
an indirect process.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ariffer
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Inspection



I haven't been able to figure out how to use inspection formally for
in house jobs.

Maybe I am missing something, but with subcontract operations parts
show up in the inspection queue, but with internal jobs they don't.

We are currently not using labor tracking, but if this is necesary to
gain this functionality let me know.

I am hoping someone with their vast experience with Vista/Vantage can
explain a hopefully simple process I am missing.

Thanks,

Adam





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Charlie-



To do it by non conforming parts from an operation how can you mark an
operation complete without doing labor entry so it will let you non conform
it?



Thanks,



Adam



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Inspection (V6 & 8)



There is no clean way to do inside inspection. What you can do is create
in inspection operation and then record labor against it. In the
inspection operation, those that pass inspection are good and those that
fail are non-conforming. The non-conforming parts then go to the QA
inspection panel just as if another operation created the
non-conformance. This makes inspection a direct labor function. If you
make this a quantity only function Time will be calculated using the
estimated hours. If you set up the estimated hours at 0, no time will be
recorded, no burden will be reported and it will act as an indirect
operation.

Another way the same thing can be handled is to do the inspection
without having an operation in your method and record the
non-conformance where the operation that created the problem occurred.
You can create an operational non-conformance in the non-conformance
program and then act on it from there. This method keeps Inspection as
an indirect process.

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of ariffer
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Inspection

I haven't been able to figure out how to use inspection formally for
in house jobs.

Maybe I am missing something, but with subcontract operations parts
show up in the inspection queue, but with internal jobs they don't.

We are currently not using labor tracking, but if this is necesary to
gain this functionality let me know.

I am hoping someone with their vast experience with Vista/Vantage can
explain a hopefully simple process I am missing.

Thanks,

Adam

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If you are using (full license) Labor Entry, you can set the OP Complete checkbox and force it complete.

In MES, that option doesn't appear to exist in 404.

Adam Riffer <ariffer@...> wrote:
Charlie-

To do it by non conforming parts from an operation how can you mark an
operation complete without doing labor entry so it will let you non conform
it?

Thanks,

Adam

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Inspection (V6 & 8)

There is no clean way to do inside inspection. What you can do is create
in inspection operation and then record labor against it. In the
inspection operation, those that pass inspection are good and those that
fail are non-conforming. The non-conforming parts then go to the QA
inspection panel just as if another operation created the
non-conformance. This makes inspection a direct labor function. If you
make this a quantity only function Time will be calculated using the
estimated hours. If you set up the estimated hours at 0, no time will be
recorded, no burden will be reported and it will act as an indirect
operation.

Another way the same thing can be handled is to do the inspection
without having an operation in your method and record the
non-conformance where the operation that created the problem occurred.
You can create an operational non-conformance in the non-conformance
program and then act on it from there. This method keeps Inspection as
an indirect process.

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of ariffer
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Inspection

I haven't been able to figure out how to use inspection formally for
in house jobs.

Maybe I am missing something, but with subcontract operations parts
show up in the inspection queue, but with internal jobs they don't.

We are currently not using labor tracking, but if this is necesary to
gain this functionality let me know.

I am hoping someone with their vast experience with Vista/Vantage can
explain a hopefully simple process I am missing.

Thanks,

Adam

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