Subcontract shipments

Cut 2 (or more) POs from your multiple locations and do multiple shipments.

Rob Brown

--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Craig Weiss <cweiss@...> wrote:
From: Craig Weiss <cweiss@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Subcontract shipments
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 10:07 AM











We subcontract some of our manufacturing, and when we do, we typically

have to ship parts to the subcontractor from 2 different locations. The

Subcontract shipment entry only seems to allow a single shipment for

all materials going to the subcontractor. Does anyone have any way

around this?

Thanks,

Craig
Hello,

does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part to the subcontractor.
Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.

Any help would be appreciated.

Pete Horner


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Are you trying to ship it out one part and then receive it in as
another?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part to
the subcontractor.
> Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Pete Horner
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Peter, Are you issuing material to the subcontract job (a child job set up to connect to the parent job operation). We are running 8.00.810b and have been doing doing sub-contract shipments and receipts all the time and makes up about 90% of our manufacturing process. One of the problems we've encountered is the packing slip that we use when doing for shipments to the subcontractor that will not allow us to list the materials that we issue to the subcontract job but rather the finished expected material back.
Can you lay out your process step by step so I understand why you are encountering this problem.
RSN

Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
Are you trying to ship it out one part and then receive it in as
another?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part to
the subcontractor.
> Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Pete Horner
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hello Michael,

I'm just trying to get the parts to ship to a subcontractor and deduct from inventory at that point. I'd prefer to receive them back in as another part number, but honestly haven't even got to that point yet.
I'm stuck on the subcontractor shipment NOT deducting from inventory.

Pete

Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote: Are you trying to ship it out one part and then receive it in as
another?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part to
the subcontractor.
> Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Pete Horner
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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I can understand Pete's confusion. Yes, you need to issue material
to the job before the material will deduct from your inventory.
Shipping to a subcontract is essentially just a documented
transaction, not necessarily a material transfer. And I agree with
another response that notes the packing slip only refers to the ASM
top level part - not the component piece parts/materials underneath
this ASM/Subcontract Operation that you are sending to the
subcontract vendor.

Pete, when you ship to the supplier, you create a packing slip
against the Job-Asm-Oper (not the materials). Then when you receive
back the parts, you are actually just receiving in the Subcontract
Operation (and its' associated cost based on the PO).

We had to create a custom packing slip so we could track the
physical parts we were sending to the supplier so both of us knew
what was in the crate. I put in an enhancement request that this
should be a standard report but I'm sure that will not happen.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part
to the subcontractor.
> Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Pete Horner
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Hi, If you are version 8 and running MRP or Global scheduling I
believe that the subcontract shipment process stops the rescheduling
of the sub con operation, depending on your settings.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ermc_v" <rjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> I can understand Pete's confusion. Yes, you need to issue material
> to the job before the material will deduct from your inventory.
> Shipping to a subcontract is essentially just a documented
> transaction, not necessarily a material transfer. And I agree with
> another response that notes the packing slip only refers to the ASM
> top level part - not the component piece parts/materials underneath
> this ASM/Subcontract Operation that you are sending to the
> subcontract vendor.
>
> Pete, when you ship to the supplier, you create a packing slip
> against the Job-Asm-Oper (not the materials). Then when you receive
> back the parts, you are actually just receiving in the Subcontract
> Operation (and its' associated cost based on the PO).
>
> We had to create a custom packing slip so we could track the
> physical parts we were sending to the supplier so both of us knew
> what was in the crate. I put in an enhancement request that this
> should be a standard report but I'm sure that will not happen.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
> getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
> at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part
> to the subcontractor.
> > Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Pete Horner
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green
Center.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Hello,

I think I've figured out the process for subcontract shipments. Here is the process that I'm using;

1. Create Job for Finished Sub-contract part
2. add the subcontract operation & materials to the job
3. Issue the raw materials to job (this step removes from inventory/bin.
4. Creat a PO for subcontract operation
5. ship to subcontractor
6. Do a PO receipt when parts returned from supplier
7. Receive completed parts to inventory
8. Close job created in step #1 above.

this process relieves inventory and enables me to track goods out/sent to subcontractors.


RSN <rsnsfi@...> wrote: Peter, Are you issuing material to the subcontract job (a child job set up to connect to the parent job operation). We are running 8.00.810b and have been doing doing sub-contract shipments and receipts all the time and makes up about 90% of our manufacturing process. One of the problems we've encountered is the packing slip that we use when doing for shipments to the subcontractor that will not allow us to list the materials that we issue to the subcontract job but rather the finished expected material back.
Can you lay out your process step by step so I understand why you are encountering this problem.
RSN

Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
Are you trying to ship it out one part and then receive it in as
another?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part to
the subcontractor.
> Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Pete Horner
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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PEter, In step 3 below, you indicate that when you issue the materials, it does the proper inventory reduction then- does the trans code show STK-MTL?
In Step 5 below, what additional step/paperwork do you issue when doing the shipping step to the subcontract supplier. -do you generate the shipment entry to subcontractor?
Also when you receive from P.O. I am assuming that you don't go through Inspection Processing -if you do then make sure that you receive complete or issue complete in Inspection Processing queue on these materials.
You also indicate that you close the job. Are you creating the jobs simply to stock/replenish this finished good to inventory?. Is this where you are seeing the error.
Or will this material fulfill an operational step in another job? (this gets tricky).
I'm still not clear where you don't
One suggestion to test out-in your test instance, as you do each of these steps, its a good thought to track the actual transaction type code-I right mouse click on the part in the job, P.O, receipt entry etc. and select Part Transaction History Tracker and click on Retrieve which shows me transaction code and running qty detail. Then identify where the expected transaction to replenish your inventory by the running qty incrementing is NOT occurring.
RSN
Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
Hello,

I think I've figured out the process for subcontract shipments. Here is the process that I'm using;

1. Create Job for Finished Sub-contract part
2. add the subcontract operation & materials to the job
3. Issue the raw materials to job (this step removes from inventory/bin.
4. Creat a PO for subcontract operation
5. ship to subcontractor
6. Do a PO receipt when parts returned from supplier
7. Receive completed parts to inventory
8. Close job created in step #1 above.

this process relieves inventory and enables me to track goods out/sent to subcontractors.

RSN <rsnsfi@...> wrote: Peter, Are you issuing material to the subcontract job (a child job set up to connect to the parent job operation). We are running 8.00.810b and have been doing doing sub-contract shipments and receipts all the time and makes up about 90% of our manufacturing process. One of the problems we've encountered is the packing slip that we use when doing for shipments to the subcontractor that will not allow us to list the materials that we issue to the subcontract job but rather the finished expected material back.
Can you lay out your process step by step so I understand why you are encountering this problem.
RSN

Michael McWilliams <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
Are you trying to ship it out one part and then receive it in as
another?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part to
the subcontractor.
> Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Pete Horner
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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To ERMC_V- would you be willing to share your custom packslip report that you generated to select the materials actually shipped
Thanks
RSN

brychanwilliams <brychanw@...> wrote:
Hi, If you are version 8 and running MRP or Global scheduling I
believe that the subcontract shipment process stops the rescheduling
of the sub con operation, depending on your settings.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "ermc_v" <rjohnson@...> wrote:
>
> I can understand Pete's confusion. Yes, you need to issue material
> to the job before the material will deduct from your inventory.
> Shipping to a subcontract is essentially just a documented
> transaction, not necessarily a material transfer. And I agree with
> another response that notes the packing slip only refers to the ASM
> top level part - not the component piece parts/materials underneath
> this ASM/Subcontract Operation that you are sending to the
> subcontract vendor.
>
> Pete, when you ship to the supplier, you create a packing slip
> against the Job-Asm-Oper (not the materials). Then when you receive
> back the parts, you are actually just receiving in the Subcontract
> Operation (and its' associated cost based on the PO).
>
> We had to create a custom packing slip so we could track the
> physical parts we were sending to the supplier so both of us knew
> what was in the crate. I put in an enhancement request that this
> should be a standard report but I'm sure that will not happen.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Pete Horner <phornerjr@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > does anyone do subcontract shipments ? I'm having difficulty
> getting shipments to deduct from inventory whse/bin. I am confused
> at to whether I should be shipping the parent or raw (virgin) part
> to the subcontractor.
> > Have talked with tech support on this and am getting nowhere.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Pete Horner
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Looking for earth-friendly autos?
> > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green
Center.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>






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We subcontract some of our manufacturing, and when we do, we typically
have to ship parts to the subcontractor from 2 different locations. The
Subcontract shipment entry only seems to allow a single shipment for
all materials going to the subcontractor. Does anyone have any way
around this?
Thanks,
Craig