Time Phase Exception Direct

A non-stock purchase part in a generated a job will be purchase direct. If you want it purchased to stock, make the part a stock part.

The screwed up time phase view of OH/supply/demand is because the part is non-qty bearing. (Do you WANT it to be non qty bearing?)

Rob




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From: Randy Weber <rweber@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 8:48:39 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

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I figured it out. Non-stock was unchecked and quantity bearing was
checked. But on the job, for some reason the field 'purchase direct' was
checked. I don't know why and we never use that field. I cannot find
this in the materials detail of the revision, so it appears that the
purchase direct field in job entry does not derive its value from
anywhere else so you can only maintain this in the job - am I correct?

Clarification: In time phase, it added up stock and receipts but did not
reduce the balance by the required qty's.

Thanks for your help.

Randy Weber

From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of Charles Carden
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

Yes, this would be caused by the Non-Stock check box set to true and the
Quantity Bearing box set to false on the Part Plant tab in Part Entry.
We have parts that we consider "Floor Stock/Vendor Managed" inventory,
e.g. washers, nuts, bolts, etc. that we do not track inventory for but
wish to include in the BOM. Most companies will not include these parts
in the BOM but will have them on the drawing since these parts are
normally expense items and are included in the overhead/burden cost. The
Quantity Bearing check box was added in Vantage 8.03 back in September
of 2006. It was a great aid for us because we have hundreds of those
parts in our BOM.

Be careful in using this box as it generate issues in other areas such
as shortage reports, Production Planner Workbench, etc. We had to
customize most of the reports, dashboards and trackers to eliminate
those items. Epicor did not take it quite far enough when they added the
feature.

Please be aware that those check boxes can be set differently on the
Part detail tab and the Plant tab in Part Entry.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
Georgetown, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

Direct indicates a non-stock setup part that must be purchased-direct to
individual job or order requirements.

We don't do ANY purchase-direct (other than subcontract services) so I
can't explain the odd sounding zero balance behavior. (Possibly the
parts involved are also set up as non-Qty Bearing?)

Check you Part & PartPlant settings when you encounter another one and
compare it to parts that give you 'normal' timephase behavior.

Rob Brown

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To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:27:32 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

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When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled
'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does
not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber

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When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled 'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber
Purchase direct to the job 50 required on job; 50 will be ordered to that job ignores all else
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-----Original Message-----
From: "randyweb" <rweber@...>

Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:27:32
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct


v8.03x

When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled 'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber




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Direct indicates a non-stock setup part that must be purchased-direct to individual job or order requirements.

We don't do ANY purchase-direct (other than subcontract services) so I can't explain the odd sounding zero balance behavior. (Possibly the parts involved are also set up as non-Qty Bearing?)

Check you Part & PartPlant settings when you encounter another one and compare it to parts that give you 'normal' timephase behavior.

Rob Brown




________________________________
From: randyweb <rweber@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:27:32 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct


v8.03x

When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled 'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber







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Yes, this would be caused by the Non-Stock check box set to true and the Quantity Bearing box set to false on the Part Plant tab in Part Entry. We have parts that we consider "Floor Stock/Vendor Managed" inventory, e.g. washers, nuts, bolts, etc. that we do not track inventory for but wish to include in the BOM. Most companies will not include these parts in the BOM but will have them on the drawing since these parts are normally expense items and are included in the overhead/burden cost. The Quantity Bearing check box was added in Vantage 8.03 back in September of 2006. It was a great aid for us because we have hundreds of those parts in our BOM.

Be careful in using this box as it generate issues in other areas such as shortage reports, Production Planner Workbench, etc. We had to customize most of the reports, dashboards and trackers to eliminate those items. Epicor did not take it quite far enough when they added the feature.

Please be aware that those check boxes can be set differently on the Part detail tab and the Plant tab in Part Entry.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
Georgetown, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct


Direct indicates a non-stock setup part that must be purchased-direct to individual job or order requirements.

We don't do ANY purchase-direct (other than subcontract services) so I can't explain the odd sounding zero balance behavior. (Possibly the parts involved are also set up as non-Qty Bearing?)

Check you Part & PartPlant settings when you encounter another one and compare it to parts that give you 'normal' timephase behavior.

Rob Brown

________________________________
From: randyweb <rweber@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:27:32 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

v8.03x

When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled 'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber

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I figured it out. Non-stock was unchecked and quantity bearing was
checked. But on the job, for some reason the field 'purchase direct' was
checked. I don't know why and we never use that field. I cannot find
this in the materials detail of the revision, so it appears that the
purchase direct field in job entry does not derive its value from
anywhere else so you can only maintain this in the job - am I correct?



Clarification: In time phase, it added up stock and receipts but did not
reduce the balance by the required qty's.



Thanks for your help.



Randy Weber



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Carden
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct





Yes, this would be caused by the Non-Stock check box set to true and the
Quantity Bearing box set to false on the Part Plant tab in Part Entry.
We have parts that we consider "Floor Stock/Vendor Managed" inventory,
e.g. washers, nuts, bolts, etc. that we do not track inventory for but
wish to include in the BOM. Most companies will not include these parts
in the BOM but will have them on the drawing since these parts are
normally expense items and are included in the overhead/burden cost. The
Quantity Bearing check box was added in Vantage 8.03 back in September
of 2006. It was a great aid for us because we have hundreds of those
parts in our BOM.

Be careful in using this box as it generate issues in other areas such
as shortage reports, Production Planner Workbench, etc. We had to
customize most of the reports, dashboards and trackers to eliminate
those items. Epicor did not take it quite far enough when they added the
feature.

Please be aware that those check boxes can be set differently on the
Part detail tab and the Plant tab in Part Entry.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
Georgetown, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

Direct indicates a non-stock setup part that must be purchased-direct to
individual job or order requirements.

We don't do ANY purchase-direct (other than subcontract services) so I
can't explain the odd sounding zero balance behavior. (Possibly the
parts involved are also set up as non-Qty Bearing?)

Check you Part & PartPlant settings when you encounter another one and
compare it to parts that give you 'normal' timephase behavior.

Rob Brown

________________________________
From: randyweb <rweber@...
<mailto:rweber%40tlcelectronics.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:27:32 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

v8.03x

When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled
'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does
not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber

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That is correct Purchase direct defaults checked from nonstock flag and you can check it manually at the material level at quote engineering or job. And again it was purchase direct for that job and that job only ignoring all else stock or receipts
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Randy Weber" <rweber@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:48:39
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

I figured it out. Non-stock was unchecked and quantity bearing was
checked. But on the job, for some reason the field 'purchase direct' was
checked. I don't know why and we never use that field. I cannot find
this in the materials detail of the revision, so it appears that the
purchase direct field in job entry does not derive its value from
anywhere else so you can only maintain this in the job - am I correct?



Clarification: In time phase, it added up stock and receipts but did not
reduce the balance by the required qty's.



Thanks for your help.



Randy Weber



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Carden
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct





Yes, this would be caused by the Non-Stock check box set to true and the
Quantity Bearing box set to false on the Part Plant tab in Part Entry.
We have parts that we consider "Floor Stock/Vendor Managed" inventory,
e.g. washers, nuts, bolts, etc. that we do not track inventory for but
wish to include in the BOM. Most companies will not include these parts
in the BOM but will have them on the drawing since these parts are
normally expense items and are included in the overhead/burden cost. The
Quantity Bearing check box was added in Vantage 8.03 back in September
of 2006. It was a great aid for us because we have hundreds of those
parts in our BOM.

Be careful in using this box as it generate issues in other areas such
as shortage reports, Production Planner Workbench, etc. We had to
customize most of the reports, dashboards and trackers to eliminate
those items. Epicor did not take it quite far enough when they added the
feature.

Please be aware that those check boxes can be set differently on the
Part detail tab and the Plant tab in Part Entry.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
Georgetown, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

Direct indicates a non-stock setup part that must be purchased-direct to
individual job or order requirements.

We don't do ANY purchase-direct (other than subcontract services) so I
can't explain the odd sounding zero balance behavior. (Possibly the
parts involved are also set up as non-Qty Bearing?)

Check you Part & PartPlant settings when you encounter another one and
compare it to parts that give you 'normal' timephase behavior.

Rob Brown

________________________________
From: randyweb <rweber@...
<mailto:rweber%40tlcelectronics.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:27:32 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Time Phase Exception Direct

v8.03x

When viewing time-phase on purchase parts, sometimes the column labeled
'exception' has the word 'direct'. What does this mean?

Also, our buyer tells me that when this is there, the time-phase does
not calculate balances on these parts. It's always zero balance.

thanks in advance

randy weber

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